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Gracian

24/07/2006, 22h34

Tá lá no U2.com: vai sair um livro dia 22 de setembro chamado "definitivo" sobre o U2, contado por eles mesmos (com a ajuda do McGuiness).
EU QUERO!!!

patic

24/07/2006, 22h44

fiz uma tradução meio tosca do que saiu no U2.com ;)

Em suas próprias palavras

Será a história definitiva do U2. Terá histórias nunca antes faladas e fotos nunca antes vistas. É U2 por U2 e a publicação mundial será daqui a dois meses, em 22 de Setembro.

Pela primeira vez cada membro do U2 – e o empresário Paul McGuinness – vão contar suas próprias histórias desde suas antigas memórias de crianças passando pelo primeiro encontro um com o outro, do primeiro acorde na cozinha do Larry até se tornar a maior banda de rock’n’roll do mundo.

Já se questionou o que é estar em uma banda com seus amigos de escolas por sua vida adulta inteira?

Já quis ter uma conversa com a própria banda?

“U2byu2” é a conversa final com Adam, Bono, Edge, Larry e Paul McGuinness na qual eles contam suas versões da História do U2.

Apresentando mais de 1.500 imagens, incluindo fotografias nunca antes publicadas de arquivos pessoais da banda, esse peso de 350 páginas conta a história do U2 da perspectiva daqueles que a sabem melhor – e a trazem diretamente até 2006.

“A história do U2 é extraordinária e nós estamos orgulhosos de estar publicando este livro”, diz Trevor Dolby, Diretor de Publicação da HaperCollins Entertainment. “U2byU2 é um livro não apenas para os fãs, mas para qualquer um interessado em música e na cultura moderna”.

e eu quero muitooooooooooooooooooooooo esse livro :chorando:
queria poder comprar ele na livraria e em português, será que eu estou sonhando demais?:chorando:

Light My Way

24/07/2006, 23h05

em 22 de Setembro.

miniiiiina
o DVD da Zoo sai dia 18...
o livrao dia 22...
e pegue diiiiinda!!

Cacau

24/07/2006, 23h37

Lara Vox

24/07/2006, 23h40

Eu quero :chorando:
Com tanta coisa pra comprar eu vou a falência!
Sorte que é tudo perto do meu aniversário, mas com certeza não vai ser barato...

*Li*Vox*

24/07/2006, 23h52

350 pags????? nossa, vou começar a juntar din din a partir de hj!!!!!:oh::oh:

patic

24/07/2006, 23h53

Vai sair uma versão portuguesa, vc vai poder comprar na Fnac.PT...já o Brasil, nem sinal até agora:reprvd:

queria tanto que os livros do U2 fossem lançados no Brasil tb :(
tem tanta coisa boa que nós não temos acesso aqui, o U2 at the end of the World deveria ser lançado aqui tb, comprei a versão americana na amazon, mas faria tudo por um versão em português:(

não consigo entender porque não lançar um livro como esse U2 by U2 no Brasil, será que eles acham que não tem mercado:dúvida: , imagina, se não tem mercado para um livro do U2, maior banda do mundo, o que será das outras bandas :chorando:

Su Scout

24/07/2006, 23h56

Como dizem, lá vai eu deixar os caras mais ricos :P

Nildo

25/07/2006, 00h07

Curioso eh q , eles falam em WORLDWIDE RELEASE , ou seja lancamento mundial ........ Ah Deus faca o Brasil ser lembrado .... e assim nossos bolsos facilitados.

Marybel

25/07/2006, 08h05

Curioso eh q , eles falam em WORLDWIDE RELEASE , ou seja lancamento mundial ........ Ah Deus faca o Brasil ser lembrado .... e assim nossos bolsos facilitados.
Deus te ouça, Nildo. Mas sinceramente, você não acha que tá sonhando alto demais?:dúvida:

Bem, tá na cara que eu vou gastar meu 13º este ano em Setembro. É ZOOTV em DVD, é U2 by U2. E a minha poupança U2008 vai ficar um pouco menor do que eu previa até o final deste ano!<_<

Bem que poderia rolar um privilegiozinho pra quem é assinante do U2.com, né?:assobio:

Nildo

25/07/2006, 12h23

Nah , seria uma vergonha se uma Auto oficial , dos caras nao fosse lancada mundo todo , aq pq seria a mesma logica na minha cabeca .....

Single - Livros menos (Apenas em algumas areas do mundo)
Bio oficial - Albuns (Todos Países )

Deve demorar pra chegar aq , mas chega ....

Ai pelas minhas contas otimistas , o livro chegaria por uns 50 .... e o dvd duplo por uns 49,90 ou 59,90 , at pq num pago mais q isso nao :lol:

Marybel

25/07/2006, 12h40

Ai pelas minhas contas otimistas , o livro chegaria por uns 50 .... e o dvd duplo por uns 49,90 ou 59,90 , at pq num pago mais q isso nao :lol:
Dólares ou reais?
Se for o segundo, haja otimismo, hein!:P

Nildo

25/07/2006, 14h18

Reais , num eh nem otimismo ...... eh so vc fazer as contas se eles colocarem mais q isso eh pq tao querendo fazer o povo de besta , so pq eh um item esperado a muito tempo .... todo jeito se vinher mais q isso , eu do uma bela banana pra Universal Brasil e tudo mais , e importo esse troco ..... Pagar mais de 59 reais , sabendo q pode ser sacanagem das empresas daq e impostos ....... neh Eh tanto q eu nem cheguei a comprar o dvd duplo da Vertigo .

At pq Bel num tem nenhuma diferenca o dvd nacional pra um inter , at pq faz tempo q todo dvd vem a opcao de "Brazilian Portuguese" , num muda em nada ..... MMm Na verdade muda os dvds lah fora quase sempre vem com um booklet ou coisa assim , q aq sao sacaneados

Cacau

25/07/2006, 15h10

Nossa, eu acho que vc está sendo otimista!
O Pulse tá custando R$ 99,00...
Acho que com o tempo eles até baixam o preço...vi o VT Chicago por R$ 39,00, mas o simples;)

Nildo

25/07/2006, 15h49

Nossa, eu acho que vc está sendo otimista!
O Pulse tá custando R$ 99,00...
Acho que com o tempo eles até baixam o preço...vi o VT Chicago por R$ 39,00, mas o simples;)

Aquilo foi o maior assalto a mao armada q eu jah vi na face da terra , ainda n entendi a desculpa q deram pra aquilo , fosse 3 dvds .... mas 2 custando aquilo ...... puts eh muito mais barato importar e tudo do amazon.com , mesmo sem ter alguem vindo dos EUA e tal .....

Num eh otimismo nao , eh simples assim , se vier abaixo de 60 tudo bem , agora pagar mais ...... de jeito nenhum , at pq um dvd com bonus q ainda n me agradaram , puts pagar + 60 pra bonus q tem musica repetida e tudo ..... :reprvd:

Cacau

25/07/2006, 15h51

Aquilo foi o maior assalto a mao armada q eu jah vi na face da terra , ainda n entendi a desculpa q deram pra aquilo , fosse 3 dvds .... mas 2 custando aquilo ...... puts eh muito mais barato importar e tudo do amazon.com , mesmo sem ter alguem vindo dos EUA e tal .....

Num eh otimismo nao , eh simples assim , se vier abaixo de 60 tudo bem , agora pagar mais ...... de jeito nenhum , at pq um dvd com bonus q ainda n me agradaram , puts pagar + 60 pra bonus q tem musica repetida e tudo ..... :reprvd:

Eu tb não pago...mas ai nossa saída é importar;)

Su Scout

25/07/2006, 15h58

E pra importar sairia quanto mais ou menos? ;)

Marybel

25/07/2006, 17h04

E pra importar sairia quanto mais ou menos? ;)
Su, a gente só pode supor.
Mas quando eu comprei o VT Chicago, eu optei por comprar o duplo importado na Amazon. Não me lembro o valor exato em dólar, mas com a conversão e o frete, ficou em R$ 62,90 (R$ 1,10 mais barato que o simples nacional, que nem encarte direito tem).

Existem algumas dicas para comprar produtos importados. Uma delas é tentar não ultrapassar os U$ 50,00. A segunda, é trazer um livro junto. Assim, a gente pode fugir com mais facilidade da alíquota absurda de 60% de impostos sobre os produtos.

Agora Nildo. Sinto amiguinho, mas acho que você não está sendo otimista. E sim sonhando. Vide o exemplo do U2 & I. Quem viu este livro por aqui achou por mais de R$ 300,00. Eu acho que o U2 by U2 vai sair por uns U$ 49,00 lá. E o DVD, tudo bem, o duplo sairia pelos U$ 26,00 normais. Mas só da conversão do dólar para o real superaria a sua previsão.

Você sempre tem a opção de esperar o preço baixar. Mas para esses produtos, acho que essa espera vai ser de mais de 6 meses. Tô apostando nisso.:(

Nildo

25/07/2006, 21h13

Mas a amazon eh daquelas , q especialmente com lancamentos e grandes sempre coloca coisas como 40% off .... Um grande exemplo eh o PULSE , q agente tava falando aq , eh tb a coisa mais proxima da zootv , pq eh um show de VHS lancado em 95 , q so agora foi re-lancado digitalmente em disco duplo

Vejam por qto ele tah

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Poh fosse a Zootv , um show de 18,9 , ficaria exatamente em
41,58 , ai juntando impostos e frete , no maximo nao passava de 60 e pouco ..... Ai ficava maravilha .

Detalhe tah esse preco , e ainda sim , sao 240 minutos de programa , quase 200 de musica se nao me engano juntando os extras .... Eh quase impossivel na minha cabeca o dvd da zoo vir assim .....

P.S. O u2 tb num podia fazer dvs com pelo menos metade da qualidade do pink

Sintam o drama desse pulse :

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Marybel

26/07/2006, 11h16

Poh fosse a Zootv , um show de 18,9 , ficaria exatamente em
41,58 , ai juntando impostos e frete , no maximo nao passava de 60 e pouco ..... Ai ficava maravilha .

Então vamos a realidade:
DVD: U$ 18,90
Frete: U$ 6,48
Total do Produto: U$ 25,36

Convertendo para o real: R$ 56,04

Vai que o pessoal da receita federal tá de mau-humor e quer cobrar os impostos de importação do seu pedido:

R$ 56,04 x 1,6 = R$ 89,67.

Essa é a conta simples que qualquer empresa vai fazer na hora de vender estes produtos por aqui.

Mas sinceramente Nildo, Deus queira que você esteja certo e que venha mais barato mesmo. O único problema é que, conhecendo a ambição da Universal, é muito difícil acreditar nisso...:(

Nildo

26/07/2006, 11h36

Então vamos a realidade:
DVD: U$ 18,90
Frete: U$ 6,48
Total do Produto: U$ 25,36

Convertendo para o real: R$ 56,04

Vai que o pessoal da receita federal tá de mau-humor e quer cobrar os impostos de importação do seu pedido:

R$ 56,04 x 1,6 = R$ 89,67.

Essa é a conta simples que qualquer empresa vai fazer na hora de vender estes produtos por aqui.

Mas sinceramente Nildo, Deus queira que você esteja certo e que venha mais barato mesmo. O único problema é que, conhecendo a ambição da Universal, é muito difícil acreditar nisso...:(

Mas perai , explica ai bel por qto tava o dvd de chicago , q na compra final acabou em 60 e pouco ..... Vc tb num disse q conseguiu diminuir a aliquota.

Ou senao , uma solucao mais simples , mais tinha q ter uma conveniencia legal na epoca , seria ter algum conhecido lah q tivesse voltando pra cah ..... oh maravilha ai a conta toda nem passava de 50.

P.S.: Agora me liguei , perai Bel eles nao podem se basear nessa conta nao para o preco , pq isso eh uma importacao , e o dvd nao eh importado ele tb vai ser produzido aq , na zona franca de Manauus se nao me engano ........ entao deveria ficar algo assim ...

Possivel preco do DVD 18,9 , baseado na versao internacional , passando pra reais 41,52 , colocando o imposto maldito , 41,52 x 1,6 = 67 arredondado . Apesar de ainda nao ser o preco ideal pra mim , at pq foi baseado num dvd duplo com mais duracao q o zootv , No final nao eh uma tragedia . Eles q tentem colocar o preco 80 pra cima :vaisef:

LadyCygnus

26/07/2006, 12h01

Gente, eu tô perdida aqui......:chorando:

Se, por um exemplo, eu importar um livro + um dvd eu também pago imposto?! Para livros não há esse maldito imposto, né?

:dúvida:

Marybel

26/07/2006, 12h16

P.S.: Agora me liguei , perai Bel eles nao podem se basear nessa conta nao para o preco , pq isso eh uma importacao , e o dvd nao eh importado ele tb vai ser produzido aq , na zona franca de Manauus se nao me engano ........ entao deveria ficar algo assim ...
Nildo. eles não se baseiam nestes valores para os produtos nacionais. Pode ver que qualquer CD, DVD ou algo do gênero que seja produzido aqui, tem geralmente o mesmo valor, ou até mesmo superior do item em dólar convertendo para o real.

Possivel preco do DVD 18,9 , baseado na versao internacional , passando pra reais 41,52 , colocando o imposto maldito , 41,52 x 1,6 = 67 arredondado . Apesar de ainda nao ser o preco ideal pra mim , at pq foi baseado num dvd duplo com mais duracao q o zootv , No final nao eh uma tragedia . Eles q tentem colocar o preco 80 pra cima :vaisef:
Mas o imposto você conta também sobre o frete! Esse também é mais um problema.

Se, por um exemplo, eu importar um livro + um dvd eu também pago imposto?! Para livros não há esse maldito imposto, né?
Lady.
Imposto de 60% vale para todos os itens, exceto livros.
Eles, de vez em quando, deixam passar pedidos cujo valor seja inferior a U$ 50,00.
Quando eu comprei a edição especial do HTDAAB, não paguei o imposto.
Quando trouxe o DVD de Chicaco, trouxe junto o At the end of the world e também não paguei imposto.
Então é uma incógnita. A gente tenta, e as vezes dá certo!;)

Nildo

26/07/2006, 12h28

Mas Bel eh o q eu to dizendo , o dvd nacional vai ser produzido aq , nao existe frete ou coisa assim , nao tem como eles colocarem isso , e o preco q eu coloquei , eh baseado em dolar ..... acho q tu confundiu , eu tava tentando basear o q seria o preco do dvd nacional aq .

Agora uma coisa engracada tb , eh q dvds musicais e filmes definitivamente nao tem a mesma medida , podem ver a maioria dos blockbusters qdo chegam aq em edicao dupla a maioria eh 49,90 , um exemplo comparando com essas contas da gente , o dvd desse ultimo filme do Harry Poter duplo , no amazon tah por 19,99 , aq no Brasil tah por 49,90 ...... Ai eu me pergunto como eh q nao ocorre o mesmo com os musicais , o imposto eh maior com eles por acaso ....... :seco:

Marybel

26/07/2006, 16h11

Nildo, a gente não vai chegar a lugar algum discutindo isso.:)
Um dia, tomando um chopp, a gente tenta esclarecer o que cada um acha!;)
Mas eu continuo pedindo a Deus que você esteja certo!

patic

26/07/2006, 21h12

tem essa sinopse no livro na amazon alemã ;)

Synopsis
"I always thought the job was to be as great as you could be." - Bono. This is the story of U2, in their own words and pictures. This limited, numbered edition of 5,000 - 10,000 copies worldwide is exquisitely bound and boxed with an exclusive facsimile of U2's first ever gig poster (outside Dublin), printed to the original size. This is a true collector edition for all true fans of the band. Told with wit, insight and astonishing candour by the band themselves and manager Paul McGuinness, with pictures from their own archives, "U2 By U2" allows unprecedented access into the inner life of the greatest rock band of our times. Bad haircuts, worse hangovers, prayer meetings and wild parties, encounters with presidents and popes, intimate accounts of the creation of all their classic songs, it is all here in a book overseen by the band with the same passion for substance, style and immaculate attention to details familiar from their musical career. "We wore it as a stubborn badge of pride that we weren't prepared to fall into line with every other group and take the fashionable stance of the day. We were uncool because we were hot, we just erupted as a live band." - The Edge. In 1975, four teenagers from Mount Temple School in Dublin gathered in a crowded kitchen to discuss forming a band. The drum kit just about fit into the room, the lead guitarist was playing a homemade guitar, the bassist could barely play at all and nobody wanted to be the singer. Over thirty years later, Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jnr are still together, bound by intense loyalty, passionate idealism and a relentless belief in the power of rock and roll to change the world. "We are trying to pin down something elusive, something that represents where we are, emotionally, physically, spiritually, but is also fresh and exciting. If it is not absolutely the best it can be, then why bother?" - Adam Clayton. "Being in U2 is more like riding a runaway train. We are just ordinary guys, hanging on to this thing for our lives." - Larry Mullen Jnr.

achei pouca coisa esse poster pelo preço da edição especial:dúvida: :reprvd:
quero comprar ela, mas espero que mais material seja acrescentado!!

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/0007240236/028-5030739-2381345?v=glance&n=52044011

Cacau

27/07/2006, 00h09

tem essa sinopse no livro na amazon alemã ;)

achei pouca coisa esse poster pelo preço da edição especial:dúvida: :reprvd:
quero comprar ela, mas espero que mais material seja acrescentado!!

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/0007240236/028-5030739-2381345?v=glance&n=52044011

Patic, eu tb estou torcendo pra não ser só isso...acho que o tamanho tb é um pouco maior. Li no site da editora há um tempão atrás que haveriam uns 500 exemplares autografados...mas acho improvável...de qualquer forma reservei uma edição deluxe pra mim, pelo fato de ser limitada, não quis correr o risco de ficar sem...mas logo logo a editora deve fazer uma segunda edição da edição limitada...capitalismo selvagem:P
Autografo vai ganhar a galera de NY, Londres e outras cidades americanas e capitais européias em que o U2 provavelmente irá pra divulgar o livro.;)

patic

27/07/2006, 00h50

Patic, eu tb estou torcendo pra não ser só isso...acho que o tamanho tb é um pouco maior. Li no site da editora há um tempão atrás que haveriam uns 500 exemplares autografados...mas acho improvável...de qualquer forma reservei uma edição deluxe pra mim, pelo fato de ser limitada, não quis correr o risco de ficar sem...mas logo logo a editora deve fazer uma segunda edição da edição limitada...capitalismo selvagem:P
Autografo vai ganhar a galera de NY, Londres e outras cidades americanas e capitais européias em que o U2 provavelmente irá pra divulgar o livro.;)

Cacau, seu post venceu a minha força de vontade, eu comecei a ler e me deu uma angustia que eu fui lá e fiz a pré-ordem da edição deluxe tb :dúvida: :dúvida: :dúvida:

agora não vejo a hora de chegar logo esse livro :lol:
venha o que vier :lol:

Cacau

27/07/2006, 01h04

Cacau, seu post venceu a minha força de vontade, eu comecei a ler e me deu uma angustia que eu fui lá e fiz a pré-ordem da edição deluxe tb :dúvida: :dúvida: :dúvida:

agora não vejo a hora de chegar logo esse livro :lol:
venha o que vier :lol:

Vê se não me xinga depois...me eximo de qualquer responsabilidade por possivel desapontamento;) :P
E vc sabe que essa edição especial tem shipping bem depois da simples, né? Acho que só sai de lá em outubro.;)

:assobio: Definitivamente o natal vai ser farto pra alguns poucos irlandeses...

::Juliana::

27/07/2006, 01h22

Vocês estão me deixando deprimida com esse papo de deluxe da pré-ordem do autógrafo e não sei mais o que... eu quero o livro e pelo visto não vou ter tão cedo porque tudo que é presente ou dinheiro que sobra já tá comprometido! Que drogaaaaaaaa, tenho que jogar na mega-sena! :chorando: :P

patic

27/07/2006, 01h25

E vc sabe que essa edição especial tem shipping bem depois da simples, né? Acho que só sai de lá em outubro.;)

...

e só agora que vc avisa :oh:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
pode deixar que vou culpar ninguém, eu ia comprar mesmo, só estava adiando o inevitável :assobio: :assobio:

Giu_Hewson

28/07/2006, 11h47

Também queria a edição especial, mas está muito caro :chorando:

Alguém me tira uma dúvida? A MT escreveu há um tempo que o frete para livro na Amazon é de US$7,99+US$4,99 por livro.. Isso para qualquer lugar do Brasil? Ou depois ainda tem mais taxas?

Marybel

28/07/2006, 11h52

Alguém me tira uma dúvida? A MT escreveu há um tempo que o frete para livro na Amazon é de US$7,99+US$4,99 por livro.. Isso para qualquer lugar do Brasil? Ou depois ainda tem mais taxas?
Independente do local. É uma taxa única para o país.
Quer fazer um teste? Faça de conta que vai comprar algum livro. Daí, no final da compra (só não vai finalizar, né?;) ), você vê exatamente o valor do frete.

Taí, vou até fazer uma promessa (Santo nenhum vai ganhar prenda, só eu!!!).
Se a minha restituição do IR sair no lote do mês de agosto, eu vou comprar a edição de luxo do U2 by U2...
Ai Jisus!!!

Giu_Hewson

28/07/2006, 16h47

Independente do local. É uma taxa única para o país.
Quer fazer um teste? Faça de conta que vai comprar algum livro. Daí, no final da compra (só não vai finalizar, né?;) ), você vê exatamente o valor do frete.
Ok, obrigada!! :)

Cacau

29/07/2006, 11h41

Taí, vou até fazer uma promessa (Santo nenhum vai ganhar prenda, só eu!!!).
Se a minha restituição do IR sair no lote do mês de agosto, eu vou comprar a edição de luxo do U2 by U2...
Ai Jisus!!!

Tô torcendo pela sua restituição...dai vc se junta ao clube das uv´s que vão ficar MUITO felizes ou MUUIITTOO frustradas em outubro!:P :chorando:

Marybel

29/07/2006, 11h56

Tô torcendo pela sua restituição...dai vc se junta ao clube das uv´s que vão ficar MUITO felizes ou MUUIITTOO frustradas em outubro!:P :chorando:
Se for o segundo caso Cacau, a gente pode montar uma rede de amparo às frustradas!:P :lol:

Cacau

29/07/2006, 11h59

Se for o segundo caso Cacau, a gente pode montar uma rede de amparo às frustradas!:P :lol:

Se for o segundo caso, a gente vai reclamar tanto que o Larry vai ter que fazer um pedido de desculpas no Grammy de 2007.:P

Rosean Vox

29/07/2006, 20h30

fiz uma tradução meio tosca do que saiu no U2.com ;)

e eu quero muitooooooooooooooooooooooo esse livro :chorando:
queria poder comprar ele na livraria e em português, será que eu estou sonhando demais?:chorando:

PATIC, estamos sonhando juntas, não consigo ler em inglês, será que vamos ter que esperar muito? Vamos torcer para que este livro seja um grande sucesso e que alguma editora brasileira queira logo fazer a tradução. Não é sonho demais, é muita fé............(e paixão pelo o U2, claro). EU TAMBÉM QUERO MUITO...........:chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

paco_one

30/07/2006, 01h01

Eu tmb acredito que pode sim, haver um livro em portugues, é só aqueles motherfuckers da editoras se ligarem que os brasileiros estão procurando os livros pra compra.

LadyCygnus

30/07/2006, 01h45

Patic, eu tb estou torcendo pra não ser só isso...acho que o tamanho tb é um pouco maior. Li no site da editora há um tempão atrás que haveriam uns 500 exemplares autografados...mas acho improvável...de qualquer forma reservei uma edição deluxe pra mim, pelo fato de ser limitada, não quis correr o risco de ficar sem...mas logo logo a editora deve fazer uma segunda edição da edição limitada...capitalismo selvagem:P
Autografo vai ganhar a galera de NY, Londres e outras cidades americanas e capitais européias em que o U2 provavelmente irá pra divulgar o livro.;)

Aiaiai..... eu abri o site da Amazon e reservei um pra mim...
:P

Não queria ficar sem, mas sei lá, o que poderia vir numa edição limitada?

*Detalhe básico: acabei de dar um sermão na minha irmã por causa de comprar compulsivamente e, olhem o que eu fiz?! :dúvida: *

E eu vou à falência, tô falando!!! Quando eu encontrar o Larry, vou cobrar cada centavo que gastei com ele......

(Vou pedir um puta sorrisão dele, ok?! Não sou tão mercenária assim!:P )

Louisevans

30/07/2006, 11h50

Não entendi direito essa coisa de edição Deluxe, mas já vou ligr pro meu padrasto em Nova York e pedi pra ele trazer um pra mim!! :aprovado: :aprovado: :aprovado:

Tally

30/07/2006, 19h45

AHHHHHHH EU QUERO!!!!
Lá vai o 13º pro U2! :lol:

patic

30/07/2006, 20h36

AHHHHHHH EU QUERO!!!!
Lá vai o 13º pro U2! :lol:

se junte ao nosso time então :aprovado:

e torça muito para que venha coisa boa nessa versão deluxe, que valha a grana despendida :lol:

Marybel

31/07/2006, 09h16

e torça muito para que venha coisa boa nessa versão deluxe, que valha a grana despendida :lol:
Mas tem que vir, né Patic?
Afinal de contas, a edição Deluxe custa o triplo da normal!<_<

Cacau

31/07/2006, 14h50

Mas tem que vir, né Patic?
Afinal de contas, a edição Deluxe custa o triplo da normal!<_<

Tenho até medo do que vou receber em outubro...mas acho que a qualidade do papel deve ser melhor, tamanho maior, e além do poster como capa, acho que tem uns out takes (fotos inéditas) do Rattle & Rum;)

patic

04/09/2006, 20h40

não sabia se postava isso aqui ou no Lillies:dúvida: , mas essas fotos estão nas páginas do livro U2 by U2 que foram liberadas hoje de manhã, mas parece que descobriram que o pessoal estava tendo acesso a elas e negaram acesso ao link ( o livro está lindo:aprovado: , as páginas são coloridas, as fotos maravilhosas, como dá pra ver aqui);)
alguém coseguiu pegar essas fotos no Interference antes de negarem o acesso :reprvd:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/u22.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/U23.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/U24.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/U26.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/U25.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/U27.jpg

deveria ter salvo as páginas hoje de manhã, mas como eu iria saber que eles iam negar acesso :dúvida: :reprvd:

o link é esse aqui: http://www.fischerverlage.de/sixcms/detail.php?template=bb_popup_details&id=857603

::Juliana::

04/09/2006, 22h14

Valeu pelas fotos, Pati!

Eu quero tanto esse livro, mas taaaanto! :chorando:

Eu quase sinto o cheirinho daquelas folhas lisinhas de livro novo, eu quero muitoooo! :chorando:

*Li*Vox*

04/09/2006, 23h19

Bom, eu vou comprar a versão normal e ja to feliz feliz da vida!! :aprovado::aprovado:

Renuska

04/09/2006, 23h42

aaaaaaaaah meu deus, eu quero AGORAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa =(
manhêÊêeee
ahahaha

Fdvigna

04/09/2006, 23h47

Pessoal, o texto abaixo foi extraido da descricao da edicao deluxe do site da Amazon da Inglaterra (www.amazon.co.uk). Abaixo segue traducao da parte que cita o que eh exclusivo dessa edicao::aprovado: :aprovado:

Sinopse
"Eu sempre achei que o negocio era ser o melhor de si" - Bono. Essa eh a estoria do U2, em suas palavras e figuras. Essa edicao limitada, numerada - 5000 na Uk - 10000 copias ao redor do mundo tem acabamento exclusivo e eh acompanhada de uma copia do poster do primeirissimo show do U2 (fora de Dublin) impresso no tamanho original. Eh uma verdadeira obra de colecionador para todos os verdadeiros fans da banda....."

"Synopsis
"I always thought the job was to be as great as you could be." - Bono. This is the story of U2, in their own words and pictures. This limited, numbered edition of 5,000 - 10,000 copies worldwide is exquisitely bound and boxed with an exclusive facsimile of U2's first ever gig poster (outside Dublin), printed to the original size. This is a true collector edition for all true fans of the band. ..... "

Giu_Hewson

05/09/2006, 12h50

*_____________* Que fotos lindas!!! Eu quero esse livro logooo :pulando:
Obrigada por postar pra gente, patic ;D

Walk On

05/09/2006, 21h25

Eu também... Mal posso esperar!!

victor_f

05/09/2006, 22h21

O @u2 avisa que a versão DELUXE só vai sair em DEZEMBRO!!

NEW @U2 U2 BY U2: DELUXE DELAY
September 05, 2006
posted by: m2

The "deluxe" edition of U2 by U2, the band's official biography, has been delayed until "some time toward the end of the year," according to a Harper Collins publicity department spokesperson. Production delays are the cause, @U2 is told. The Amazon.com listing for the deluxe edition now shows a December 1st release, while Amazon Canada lists the date as November 15th. Amazon UK still shows a September 22 release for deluxe edition; we're unsure if the delays affect the UK/Europe or not. Hopefully more to come on that.

Meanwhile, the regular edition of the book is still set for release later this month -- September 26th in N. America, according to Harper Collins.

Fdvigna

05/09/2006, 23h16

:chorando:

pois eh... vi isso agora... ai ai ai ... vou ter de esperar... bom, vira auto presente de natal entao!!!:assobio:

LadyCygnus

06/09/2006, 05h16

Nunca pego edição especial de nada. Quando resolvo, atrasam.........

:chorando:

patic

06/09/2006, 09h13

patic

06/09/2006, 09h24

eu peguei as fotos postadas no link ai de cima e estou postando aqui
eu quero agora :chorando:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_01.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_02.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_04.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_09.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_06.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_05.jpg

Marybel

06/09/2006, 09h38

AH MEU DEUS!!!:chorando:
Mas pensando por um lado bom (eu costumo fazer isso sempre!:P ), vou ter dois meses para me recuperar. ZOOTV agora e o livro, em dezembro. Até que não foi uma má notícia!:)

Su Scout

06/09/2006, 09h52

Aquela foto do Larry. :RIP:

Violet U2

06/09/2006, 11h03

eu quero agora :chorando:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_04.jpg

Pati, eu tbm queroooooooooo agoraaaaaaa :chorando: :chorando: :chorando: :chorando:
Essa foto, assim, desse tamanho.. ai meu DEUSSSSSSSS:chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

Louisevans

06/09/2006, 11h20

Eu quero esse de livro de qualquer jeitooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Cacau

06/09/2006, 11h35

fotos do livro aqui

http://scatterolight.blogspot.com/2006/09/u2-by-u2-sensory-overload.html

esse livro está lindo, eu quero agora :chorando: :chorando: :chorando:
como eu vou aguentar até dezembro sem ele :chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

Viva Patic:aprovado:

Outro dia fiquei tentando entrar naquele site alemão sem sucesso e tava morrendo de curiosidade pra ver o livro...

:chorando: :chorando: Eu já tava sofrendo porque o Deluxe só ia sair em Outubro e agora só dezembro...essa espera vai me matar:chorando: :chorando:

Quem sabe o atraso é pra dar tempo deles autografarem os livros:P (Não custa sonhar, né? - até parece...:frustrd: )

Patic, da pra saber se esse livro postado no blog é a edição Deluxe? Ele parece ter capa dura e o mesmo tamanho do U2&I.;)

Violet U2

06/09/2006, 12h59

Eu quero esse de livro de qualquer jeitooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
Lu ficou tão emocionada que saiu colocando palavra demais na frase.. :lol:
*de livro de quealquer jeito* :lol: :lol: :lol:
Essa é a minha amiga.. :abraço:

MOSQUINHA

06/09/2006, 20h13

Esse livro parece muito com o U2 Show pelo que eu vi até agora, esteticamente falando porque o que conta é diferente...
Ai, eu tendo a tentacao de ver esse livro edicao normal nas lojas la no Canada eu acho que eu vou morrer de tentacao, nao vou aguentar esperar até Dezembro :chorando:.

Mirrorball

06/09/2006, 20h47

Aquela é uma das fotos mais bonitas do Larry que eu já vi na vida. :oh:

patic

06/09/2006, 21h45

Patic, da pra saber se esse livro postado no blog é a edição Deluxe? Ele parece ter capa dura e o mesmo tamanho do U2&I.;)

Cacau, eu acho que deve ser a simples de capa dura :dúvida:
mas não tenho certeza :dúvida:

thefly

06/09/2006, 22h07

alguem me poderia dizer se vai haver uma verçao em portugues do livro?

thefly

Violet U2

06/09/2006, 22h48

Aquela é uma das fotos mais bonitas do Larry que eu já vi na vida. :oh:
Com certeza é mesmo Carol..
Uma das mais lindas que eu já vi tbm..

Louisevans

06/09/2006, 22h52

Lu ficou tão emocionada que saiu colocando palavra demais na frase.. :lol:
*de livro de quealquer jeito* :lol: :lol: :lol:
Essa é a minha amiga.. :abraço:

:lol: Quando será que o Zé volta de Nova York??? Ele vai ter que trazer um exemplar pra mim :chorando:

Violet U2

06/09/2006, 22h54

Ah, isso eu não sei, né?
Isso quem tem que saber é tu :lol:

Vertigoatomic

07/09/2006, 08h51

Caraio... to com medo das minhas dividas

Marybel

07/09/2006, 09h07

Caraio... to com medo das minhas dividas
Só você Fah?:dúvida:

Marybel

07/09/2006, 09h08

alguem me poderia dizer se vai haver uma verçao em portugues do livro?
Olha thefly, a gente espera sinceramente que tenha sim.
Mas é um pouco difícil.
Acho que, em uma projeção muito otimista, este livro demoraria uns 2 anos para sair com uma versão brasileira.

Vertigoatomic

07/09/2006, 09h11

Cacau

07/09/2006, 11h15

Olha thefly, a gente espera sinceramente que tenha sim.
Mas é um pouco difícil.
Acho que, em uma projeção muito otimista, este livro demoraria uns 2 anos para sair com uma versão brasileira.

Lembrei do post que o editor do Walk On colocou no fórum algumas semanas atrás...acho que dá pra ser um pouco mais otimista.;)

Oi, pessoALL.

Meu nome é Whaner e faço parte da UV há algum tempo, embora não participe muito das discussões.
Sou o editor do livro Walk On - A jornada espiritual do U2. Fico feliz que vários de vocês já leram o livro.
Bom, vi que alguém reclamou do nome da editora... rs... É verdade, o nome completo é meio ridículo (W4ENDOnet Comunicaçã e Editora) e, por isso a gente carinhosamente utiliza o "apelido": W4 Editora. :)

A W4 Editora tem o foco em livros que mexam com a relação Cristianismo X Cultura X Artes e, o Walk On coube direitinho na nossa linha editorial.

Também sou fã do U2, desde o final da década de 80, quando tive o primeiro contato com o The Joshua Tree. Fiquei alucinado com a mensagem e o poder da música dos caras... E, sendo um grande fã, fiquei muito feliz em poder trazer esse livro pro Brasil. (By the way, estive no dia do "show particular só prá gente")

Bom, mas o lance é o seguinte... Estamos em fase final de negociação com o agente literário do Michka Assayas e, vamos torcer prá que de tudo certo prá que ano que vem a gente publique o Bono: In Conversation with Michka Assayas.

Quanto ao U2 by U2, este deve ser lançado, também no ano que vem por uma nova editora (Thomas Nelson do Brasil) que é uma join venture entre a Thomas Nelson e a Ediouro... O Carlo Carrenho é o publisher da TNB e essa informação me foi passada por ele, ou seja, acho que dá prá acreditar... rs...

Li todas as mensagens desse tópico e, espero ajudar a viabilizar o maior número de publicações brasileiras sobre nossa banda.

Ah... Quem sabe a gente monta um lançamento do livro com todo o pessoal da UV com um show da U2 Cover?

Bjão a todos.

Whaner

Vertigoatomic

07/09/2006, 11h55

Lembrei do post que o editor do Walk On colocou no fórum algumas semanas atrás...acho que dá pra ser um pouco mais otimista.;)

Apesar do cara estar dentro do mercado editorial... entre este "deve" e o "lançamento" propriamente dito muitas coisas podem acontecer. E além do mais essa afirmação soa como uma expeculação já que seria publicado por uma editora (que não é a dele) e que ainda nem existe.
E como as coisas no Brasil levam um certo tempo pra acontecer... eu mantenho minha opinião.

Marybel

07/09/2006, 12h04

É Cacau,
Mesmo tendo algumas pistas de que podemos ser mais otimistas, acho que o Fabrício tem razão mesmo. Entre o deve, e o "é", muita coisa pode acontecer!

Cacau

07/09/2006, 12h20

É Cacau,
Mesmo tendo algumas pistas de que podemos ser mais otimistas, acho que o Fabrício tem razão mesmo. Entre o deve, e o "é", muita coisa pode acontecer!

É por isso que eu já encomendei o meu na Amazon:P
Mas acho que esse livro vai ser um sucesso mundial, nao tem porque eles nao lancarem no Brasil...talvez seja o caso de vcs entrarem em contato com essa editora pra ter mais informacoes.;)

Marybel

07/09/2006, 13h56

É uma boa idéia!!!:)

Louisevans

07/09/2006, 16h26

Nildo

08/09/2006, 10h55

Eh so eu q fiquei um pouco decepcionado com o numero de paginas ?

Cacau

08/09/2006, 12h21

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_02.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/IMG_09.jpg

Eh so eu q fiquei um pouco decepcionado com o numero de paginas ?

312 páginas desse tamanho??? Realmente fã nunca fica satisfeito, né?:lol:
Mas vc viu o tamanho da letra do texto? É igual o do U2&I, dá pra ter muita informação e vai levar um tempo até a gente ler tudo.;)
Álias, o último capitulo começa na 312...vc sabe exatamente qts páginas tem o livro?

Nildo

08/09/2006, 12h31

Product details

Hardcover: 352 pages
Publisher: HarperCollins Entertainment (22 Sep 2006)
Language English
ISBN: 0007196687
Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: #644 in Books
(Publishers and Manufacturers: Improve Your Sales (http://www.amazon.co.uk/makemoney))

Mas sim jah ia postar o indice q tava num blog , aparentemente ele jah tah sendo vendido pra imprensa

Cacau

08/09/2006, 12h36

Valeu Nildo!

Faz sentido essa pré-venda pra imprensa, porque assim já saem logo as reviews o que com certeza aumenta as vendas...

Cacau

08/09/2006, 12h46

Se bem que pra imprensa, eles devem ter sido dados e tem gente que deve estar vendendo no e-bay:P

Elise

08/09/2006, 14h51

Uhhhhhnnnnnnn...falei pra mim mesma que esse ano meu presente de Natal seria ´conseguir economizar´ mas tô vendo que vai ser mais difícil que pensei!!! Como economizar com livro desses??? Impossivel!!!!
Socorroooooooo!!!
PS: Essas fotos são MUUIITOO BOAAAAASSSSSSSS, qq isso!!

patic

08/09/2006, 18h18

o(a) Biff (está com o livro nas mãos) , membro do interference está colocando algumas citações do U2 by U2 em vários tópicos por lá, estou adorando ler e vou colocar aqui em spoiler para quem tb estiver curioso e para quem não tiver passar batido:lol:

Here are a couple of quotes from their new book, U2 By U2, that I found interesting. (I'm loving this book, by the way.):

Clayton:

"Without a doubt, Bono is the driving force. No matter how you might try to describe Bono, the words would be inadequate because there's so much more to him. To say he is a mass of contradictions barely does him justice. He his hugely intelligent and capable as a strategist with relentless logic, but he wouldn't know how to boil an egg. But that's OK. I suspect he's not interested in boiling an egg. He has what you might describe as classic Alpha Male programming. He has no difficulty deciding what he wants and he goes and gets it. He doesn't see limitations, he only sees possibilities. In some ways he is the psyche of U2; he represents things that are a part of all of us.

Edge is also very ambitious and driven but you might not see that unless you know him well because it is slightly obscured by his humanity and kindness....He is an amazing friend and colleague, with a razor-sharp brain. Bono is results-oriented whereas Edge is much more into detail. That makes for a powerful combination of creative forces."

Edge:

"Bono is chairman and founding-member of Over-Achievers Anonymous. He has an irepressible drive to be great and a lust for life. He wants to experience it all, which actually makes him very vulnerable. I sometimes worry that the media has created a myth about who he is and what he stands for. I hope the hype doesn't stop people realizing that he is just a man trying to find himself. It's part of everyone's struggle to figure out what they're doing and where they want to go. U2 write songs about the struggle but we are just as confused as anyone else.

I am driven in different ways to Bono. I have a curiosity which compels me to want to find ways to make music that are fresh and new, and I have the focus to keep going until we realize our goals. If Bono should be attending Over-Achievers Anonymous, I might have to take the 12 steps at Workaholics Anonymous. The two of us together really feed off one another's determination and concentration and energy."

Here's a quote from U2 By U2. It's actually the final quote in the book, and of course, Bono gets the last word:

"I'm waking up every day now trying to imagine what we can do next.

It is such an extraordinary thing, music. It seems to be how we communicate on another level. If you believe that we contain within our skin and bones a spirit that might last longer than your time breathing in and out, music is the thing that wakes it up. It certainly woke mine up. I wasn't looking for grace, but luckily grace was looking for me.

I used to think that one day I'd be able to resolve the different drives I have in different directions, the tension between the different peple that I am. Now I realize that is who I am, and I'm more content to be discontent. But I do feel I'm getting closer to the song I hear in my head. I mean that on every level. And when that distance between the song we hear in our heads and the one that comes out on the radio gets closer, I think this band's going to get much bigger. I actually don't think U2 is in any kind of mood to go quietly. If we get our songs right, I think we could really be very popular."

Here's a comment from Larry Mullen Jr.:

"I was very fond of Bob. He had a dry sense of humour and he liked to laugh. When the opportunities arose, I would sit with him and chat and have a drink. He was a very Dublin man, a tough nut, a real working class Irishman. He loved drama and the opera. In the last five years of his life he became quite dandy. He started to wear cravats with his shirts. He was very dapper, with a real sense of pride in himself. Having heard all the stories of life in the Hewson household, when you saw the two of them together it was kind of funny. He always saw Bono as his kid. He didn't see the rock star. It was like, 'He's my son, he deserves a clip around the ear.' That's the way he behaved around Bono. And although he may not have said it to Bono, he took real pride in what the band were doing. But he also really enjoyed sticking the boot in, just because he could, with a snigger. I enjoyed that about him and I miss his humour."

Paul McGuinness: "Bono's relationship with his father was complicated and never easy. They were very alike. Although he would never say it, I think his father was enormously proud of Bono.
I don't know why he couldn't tell him."

se eu achar mais, coloco junto a essas ;)

Marybel

09/09/2006, 09h19

Valeu Patic!
Já tô vendo que este tópico vai estourar em spoilers logo, logo...:P

LadyCygnus

09/09/2006, 10h25

Valeu Patic!!!

Eu sempre vi o Larry daquela maneira mesmo....... aiii :wub:

Cristina Cruz

09/09/2006, 15h57

e o livro tem 1500 (sim, 1500) fotos, a maioria inéditas.

LadyCygnus

09/09/2006, 16h06

Valeu Patic!!!

Eu sempre vi o Larry daquela maneira mesmo....... aiii :wub:

Uma ratificação: eu fiquei tão emocionada que troquei o Bono pelo Larry........ sorry......;)

Giu_Hewson

09/09/2006, 16h15

Ohhh thanks Patic! Estou com muuuita vontade de ler esse livro, deve ser tão legal :pulando: :pulando:

patic

09/09/2006, 16h23

Ohhh thanks Patic! Estou com muuuita vontade de ler esse livro, deve ser tão legal :pulando: :pulando:

Eu também!!! Não vejo a hora do meu chegar:pulando:, deve ter tantas histórias inéditas, de acordo com quem está lendo as histórias dos primeiros shows da banda são de morrer de rir :aprovado:

Su Scout

09/09/2006, 20h02

e o livro tem 1500 (sim, 1500) fotos, a maioria inéditas.

:pulando: Estou trabalhando em casa pra comprá-lo.:P

Su Scout

09/09/2006, 20h02

Uma ratificação: eu fiquei tão emocionada que troquei o Bono pelo Larry........ sorry......;)

E eu fiquei lá procurando essa parte.:lol::lol:

patic

10/09/2006, 10h11

mais um trechinho :aprovado:

Bono (then about 18) was pissed off with Paul. He was not doing enough for the band. Why were there no gigs? Why was there no van? And on and on.....

So, Bono decided to go to London on his own, to scare up some business. (You've all heard this story before.)

Here are his remarks:

"I went to London with Ali. It was a big deal in my own mind because I was taking this beautiful girl on a trip, and I was supposed to be in charge but I didn't know what I was doing or where I was staying. I'd never been to London before. We were not married but we were going to sleep in the same room with the agreement that we wouldn't sleep in the same bed. Her old man had looked me in the eye and, you know, I'm going away for a week with his daughter!?
So I had to keep the promise, which was very, very hard."

adorei essa parte :lol:

patic

10/09/2006, 10h28

mais um pedaço que eu acabei de ver :assobio:
fala das casas na França, With or Without You (casamento e fidelidade) ;)

Here's an exerpt from the new book, U2 By U2, all about the houses:

Edge speaking:

Early in the Nineties, Bono hatched this idea that the band would try and buy a huge house in France and create a small compound with enough space for us all to spend time there together. An estate agent called to say he had found a fantastic place right on the sea and we all went down to view it. Adam and Larry took one look and said they thought the whole idea was completely mad. But at that point I was on my own, I'd moved out of the family home and it felt like somethhng that had potential to be the next phase of life. So Bono and myself bought this house together and started making plans to renovate, because it was in such bad condition. We are only just finishing it, over fifteen years later. It's two houses on a single piece of land and we swap houses every couple of weeks. When I tell people I go on holidays with Bono they look at me a little funny but it has actually worked out really well. We bought it in 1992, it was at least another year before one of the houses was habitable and we spent a lot of time there during 1994. That was our summer of love, as Bono calls it. We had a rare old time.

Still more from U2 By U2. These remarks were triggered by questions about the meaning of "With or Without You", but are clearly about more than that.

"The lyric is pure torment. One of the things that was happening at the time was the collision in my own mind between being faithful to your art or being faithful to your lover. What if the two are at odds? Your gift versus domestic responsibility? I had always been the kind of person who would sleep on everyone else's floor, the eye of the travelling rat, a natural tinker. I would just wander off and be very happy. So now I have this person in my life whom I love more than my life but I'm wondering if the reason I'm not writing is because I'm now a domesticated beast. I'm wondering if I'm house-trained? If I meet somebody and I want to go off with them, to find out what their world is like, I can't because I'm a married man. It's not even about sexual infidelity. I just remember thinking: 'Is this the life of an artist? Am I going to have kids and settle down and betray my gift or am I going to betray my marriage? It was a very difficult thing in my head. I had met a couple of people on the way who had taken advantage of my naivete, is the best way I can put, and I realized I knew so very little about this world and now, the future looked like I was going to know even less. You can learn about politcs, culture, but your emotional life also has to be developed. I think in some senses mine wasn't, and I was going through all this kind of uncertainty. I was at least two people: the person who is so responsible, protective and loyal and the vagrant and idler in me who just wants to run from responsibility. I thought these tensions were going to destroy me but actually, in truth, it is me. That tension, it turns out, is what makes me as an artist. Right in the centre of a contradiction, that's the place to be. There I was. Loyal. But in my imagination filled with wanderlust, a heart to know God, a head to know the world, rock star who likes to run amok and sinner who knows he needs to repent....
If I had cut loose, what would have become of me?

Related to the above, these are comments sparked by the subject of Clayton's relationship with Naomi Campbell:

(Bono speaking):

"Adam is a romantic at heart.
There have been times in my marriage when I thought about those conversations I missed, those nights out, those great girls that showed such promise. Now, with a little experience, I think I know what that night would have looked like and where that conversation would have taken us and it is not a place that is particularly interesting. But it's not easy to deal with money, it's not easy to deal with fame, it's not easy to deal with women throwing themselves at you, even being married, perhaps especially being married. No matter how strong you are, no matter how upright, these are real hurdles that you have to figure out how to get over.
I will never forget the time Adam saw me in a headlock with some starlet and said to me: 'It's fun. It's exciting having sex with someone you don't know. Don't let anyone tell you it isn't. It's a great adventure getting to know somebody. But as rare as it is to fall in love, it is not as rare as real love, I will die for you love, I will be there when you're sick and when you're frail love. Now that's rare. I would give everything, all these experiences that I'm having, all these different and extraordinary women, I'd give them all up for what you have.'
I remember Adam telling me that. And if there was one reason for having him as best man at my wedding, that was it, that one conversation."

edit: acabei de ler essa parte e fiquei assim :oh:
eu quero esse livro agora :(

LadyCygnus

10/09/2006, 11h35

1. Su, sorry!!! Eu me empolguei tanto que escrevi Larry mas pensando no Bono......... Jesus, meus neurônios morreram!

2. Eu quero esse livro............... antes de dezembro! Será que tem como desfazer o pedido pra Edição de Luxo? Posso me arrepender depois, mas........

3. Oh my, que Bono mais safado! Mas, meus comentários vão ficar pra mim mesmo, hahahahaha!!!

Cacau

10/09/2006, 11h39

Patic, eu tb quero esse livro:chorando: :chorando:

Muito mais revelador até agora do que o Bono in Conversations;)

Adorei a parte em que ele fala da viagem com a Ali, no Bono in Conversations ele até menciona essa viagem, mas não tinha falado no voto de castidade:lol:
Esse homem tem uma lábia e tanto pra ter convencido o pai da Ali...

Então minha teoria sobre With or Without tava certa. (vcs lembram? um dos primeiros posts naquele tópico das dúvidas? E ele realmente ficou morando um tempo sozinho em LA antes de gravar o JT;)

patic

10/09/2006, 12h39

2. Eu quero esse livro............... antes de dezembro! Será que tem como desfazer o pedido pra Edição de Luxo? Posso me arrepender depois, mas........
[quote]

tem como vc desfazer sim, se você encomendou pela Amazon, basta ir no "your account", "open and recently shipped orders", clicar em Go, ver a sua ordem do livro, clicar em "view or change order", depois em "need to cancel an item?", selecionar o item que vc quer cancelar ( o livro) e clicar em "cancel checked items";)

mas não cancela não :dúvida: , vai que essa demora represente uma surpresa agradável pra gente :dúvida: (com dizem aqui, sonha ....:lol: )

Cacau
[quote]
Muito mais revelador até agora do que o Bono in Conversations;)

tb estou achando, provavelmente isso se deve ao autor, o Neil McCormick, que diferente do Michka, é amigo de infância deles e também escreve de forma mais aberta (vide Killing Bono) e deve ter conseguido arrancar muito mais intimidades dos quatro.

eu quero esse livro:chorando: (vou ficar escrevendo isso até dezembro:lol: )

Lara Hewson

10/09/2006, 12h55

Gente, adorei essas declarações do Bono...ele parece tão...aberto :wub:

eu realmente quero esse livro. :(

followerU2

10/09/2006, 13h00

Lara Hewson

10/09/2006, 13h01

seleciona o texto dentro da caixa de spoiler com o mouse, aí dá pra ler :P

followerU2

10/09/2006, 13h10

Gosh...tão simples assim? :oh: Thanks Lara :aprovado:

MT

Lara Hewson

10/09/2006, 14h02

I'ts very simple :D de nada o/

Cacau

10/09/2006, 15h55

Cristina Cruz

10/09/2006, 16h01

cátia

11/09/2006, 01h12

Tb estou como o tolono meio da ponte, ou seja, sem saber para onde ir.como acréscimo de que a edição portuguesa tem ZERO de notícias. Ninguém sabe de nada...Quando sai, que edição é...
Estou até a desconfiar que não vai haver edição portuguesa. Ainda na sexta feira perguntei na FANC e não têm nada na base de dados...

Cristina, me mantenha informada se vai sair ou não aí, porque minha cunhada esta indo para Portugal dia 22 e retorna só no final de Outubro, se sair me avise que eu peço para ela comprar para mim....
meu email: kitahara@provida.org.br
Obrigada Cátia:aprovado::aprovado::aprovado:

Cristina Cruz

11/09/2006, 14h09

ok, eu mantenho aqui o pessoal informado do que se passa aqui...

gijp

12/09/2006, 05h04

Cristina Cruz

12/09/2006, 08h15

aqui surgem agora rumores de que não vai haver edição em Português!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!nem quero acreditar!!

Su Scout

12/09/2006, 09h14

R$460,00 :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh:

Cacau

12/09/2006, 09h24

R$460,00 :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh:

Faz as contas, as duas edições saem bem mais barato pela Amazon, lembre-se que não há imposto sobre livros.;)

O que eu quero saber mesmo é se a deluxe é só esse poster mesmo.:chorando:

Su Scout

12/09/2006, 09h31

Faz as contas, as duas edições saem bem mais barato pela Amazon, lembre-se que não há imposto sobre livros.;)

O que eu quero saber mesmo é se a deluxe é só esse poster mesmo.:chorando:

Pois é de lá mesmo que eu vou comprar, mas eu também quero saber isso, se é só o poster, porque se for eu não penso duas vezes em comprar o simples.;)

Cacau

12/09/2006, 09h49

Pois é de lá mesmo que eu vou comprar, mas eu também quero saber isso, se é só o poster, porque se for eu não penso duas vezes em comprar o simples.;)

Me too:sim:

Cristina Cruz

12/09/2006, 10h15

só um poster por muito bom que seja não justifica a diferença de preço .... pelo menos numa altura em que sai tb o dvd Zoo e etc

Marybel

12/09/2006, 10h42

Vejam esse link: http://www.obaoba.com.br/noticias/noticias_detalhes.asp?ID=12979
Livro biogr・ico do U2 chega ao Brasil

http://www.obaoba.com.br/images/flash/t_livrou2.jpgAcaba de chegar ao pa・ o livro U2 by U2 (foto), que traz as hist・ias dos integrantes e da banda irlandesa, al・ de fotos e um p麭ter.

Existem duas edi苺es do produto: uma normal e outra de luxo, numerada, e ambas ser・ distribu・as no Brasil pela Freebook, com o pre・ sugerido de 175 e 460 reais, respectivamente.

A obra foi escrita por Neil McCormick e Steve Averill, ambos amigos dos m厲icos desde o in・io da carreira do conjunto, que se deu em meados de 1978.

O lan・mento traz 352 p・inas com hist・ias e imagens in・itas de Bono Vox e sua trupe.

http://www.obaoba.com.br/i/iprint.gif Vers・ para Impress・ (http://www.obaoba.com.br/noticias/noticias_print.asp?ID=12979)http://www.obaoba.com.br/images/ponto_branco.gifhttp://www.obaoba.com.br/i/i/email.gif Enviar para um Amigo (http://www.obaoba.com.br/noticias/noticias_detalhes.asp?ID=12979#)

Preco sugerido 460Reais nossa que roubo!!!
Só tenho uma declaração a fazer: A-O-N-D-E!!!<_<
Eu continuo esperando a minha edição de luxo, com previsão de entrega entre o dia 21/12/2006 e 11/01/2007, por míseros R$ 200,00 (é por quanto vai sair o livro, já com a conversão do dólar para o real e a taxa do cartão de crédito).
Pensem nisso galera: pelo preço da simples comprando nesta Freebook, vocês quase conseguem comprar a edição de luxo.
E só um adendo: esta edição não será traduzida. Será exatamente a edição americana. Esses caras querem ganhar todo este dinheiro so pela facilidade de trazer o livro até a gente!:reprvd:

LadyCygnus

13/09/2006, 08h34

Eu acabei cancelando minha encomenda da edição Deluxe e encomendando a hardcover, simplesmente porque me dei conta que não posso esperar até dezembro...de jeito nenhum :lol: Daí que vou acabar comprando a outra também, aposto comigo mesma :oh:

Btw, alguém poderia me informar como faço pra ler as mensagens com tags de spoiler? :dúvida: Tentei olhar na FAQ mas não achei nada sobre isso. Thanks.

MT

tem como vc desfazer sim, se você encomendou pela Amazon, basta ir no "your account", "open and recently shipped orders", clicar em Go, ver a sua ordem do livro, clicar em "view or change order", depois em "need to cancel an item?", selecionar o item que vc quer cancelar ( o livro) e clicar em "cancel checked items";)

mas não cancela não :dúvida: , vai que essa demora represente uma surpresa agradável pra gente :dúvida: (com dizem aqui, sonha ....:lol: )

Cacau

tb estou achando, provavelmente isso se deve ao autor, o Neil McCormick, que diferente do Michka, é amigo de infância deles e também escreve de forma mais aberta (vide Killing Bono) e deve ter conseguido arrancar muito mais intimidades dos quatro.

eu quero esse livro:chorando: (vou ficar escrevendo isso até dezembro:lol: )

MT, eu até comentei com a Patic se isso não seria estratégia pra fazer a gente comprar a simples e depois a deluxe...eu tb tô quase cancelando o meu pedido, não sei se vou conseguir esperar até dezembro...a menos que a Patic consiga continuar postando essas pérolas por aqui.
TB tenho medo de pagar essas diferença toda só pelo poster...vamos ver, o nivel da minha ansiedade é quem vai decidir o que eu vou fazer.:chorando:

Gente, eu não agüentei e cancelei o pedido para o Delux. Quero, preciso do livro o quanto antes!!!:chorando:

Pois é de lá mesmo que eu vou comprar, mas eu também quero saber isso, se é só o poster, porque se for eu não penso duas vezes em comprar o simples.;)

Vou esperar. Dependendo do que vier nesta edição, eu compro mais um livro, sem problema! *consumista mode on!*

patic

13/09/2006, 11h47

Mais citações, dessa vez postadas pelo yeter no interference :D

Larry on performing for the first time at Mount Temple.

"After that, I think we were a band. We had actually managed to play in public together without totally disgracing ourselves. It was as if my identity changed. i was no longer the blond kid hanging out in the corridor, I was now the kid in the band."

Edge on Adam

"Adam became our manager and had cards pirinted up. For a while, Adam and Bono were certainly the two most vocal characters in the group, myself and Larry being a big younger. Adam's understanding of such exotic terms as gig and riff gave him a certain authority. I think we were using the word "rift" until Adam put us right. We were suitably impressed"

Larry on Gloria, their first video

"I had no idea about videos, none of us did. I had just bought a brand new pair of red Doc Martens boots which cost me fifteen pounds, a lot of money back then. There was a scene where the director, Meiert Avis, asked me to spash though a puddle. I said,"I'll get my new Docs wet." He said, "Yeah, well that's what we want for the scene." I told him "Forget it." I wasn't getting the boots wet.

Bono on early rehearsals

"Rehearsals at that point were really just screaming arguments, one long row after another. I was probably most responsible for this-but you see, I'd come from a house where everyone screamed at each other, so I though that was normal discourse. My father and my brother would watch the rugby, standing in front of the television with my dad shaking his fist at the referee screaming, "I'll kill you!" My brother too.They were loud. And I guess I was too. I'm not now. In our house, I rarely raise my voice; I can raise the temperature in other ways. But, back then, that's how I thought you talked to people. So there was a lot of very very aggressive stuff, and because we were dysfunctional as a band, it was very hard. Because I wasn't master of any instrument, I was relying on Edge and he ws relying on Adam and Larry, and none of us were good enough to be relied on. You'd hear the melody coming in, your're going to just grab it, it's going to be great and then the fucking thing falls over. Some body hits and clanger and you want to kill them. And in my case that is: "I will fucking kill you if you do that again!"

;)

Giu_Hewson

13/09/2006, 12h56

O que seria de nós sem a Patic? :P
O comentário do Larry é bem... Larry :lol: Lembrei dele não querendo fazer o video de Discotheque :P

Su Scout

13/09/2006, 13h58

O que seria de nós sem a Patic? :P
O comentário do Larry é bem... Larry :lol: Lembrei dele não querendo fazer o video de Discotheque :P

É, acho que só em Electrical Storm ele deve ter concordado com tudo o que o diretor dizia, isso pelo motivo citado pelo Bono.<_< :lol:

Lara Hewson

13/09/2006, 17h09

In our house, I rarely raise my voice; I can raise the temperature in other ways.
hum... :hipcrt: :P fico imaginando o que ele quis dizer...

Cristina Cruz

13/09/2006, 17h17

Masi alguns excertos...

Larry on performing for the first time at Mount Temple.

"After that, I think we were a band. We had actually managed to play in public together without totally disgracing ourselves. It was as if my identity changed. i was no longer the blond kid hanging out in the corridor, I was now the kid in the band."

Edge on Adam

"Adam became our manager and had cards pirinted up. For a while, Adam and Bono were certainly the two most vocal characters in the group, myself and Larry being a big younger. Adam's understanding of such exotic terms as gig and riff gave him a certain authority. I think we were using the word "rift" until Adam put us right. We were suitably impressed"

Larry on Gloria, their first video

"I had no idea about videos, none of us did. I had just bought a brand new pair of red Doc Martens boots which cost me fifteen pounds, a lot of money back then. There was a scene where the director, Meiert Avis, asked me to spash though a puddle. I said,"I'll get my new Docs wet." He said, "Yeah, well that's what we want for the scene." I told him "Forget it." I wasn't getting the boots wet.

Bono on early rehearsals

"Rehearsals at that point were really just screaming arguments, one long row after another. I was probably most responsible for this-but you see, I'd come from a house where everyone screamed at each other, so I though that was normal discourse. My father and my brother would watch the rugby, standing in front of the television with my dad shaking his fist at the referee screaming, "I'll kill you!" My brother too.They were loud. And I guess I was too. I'm not now. In our house, I rarely raise my voice; I can raise the temperature in other ways. But, back then, that's how I thought you talked to people. So there was a lot of very very aggressive stuff, and because we were dysfunctional as a band, it was very hard. Because I wasn't master of any instrument, I was relying on Edge and he ws relying on Adam and Larry, and none of us were good enough to be relied on. You'd hear the melody coming in, your're going to just grab it, it's going to be great and then the fucking thing falls over. Some body hits and clanger and you want to kill them. And in my case that is: "I will fucking kill you if you do that again!"

Cristina Cruz

13/09/2006, 18h12

Como não sei nada da edição em português ... e as informações que tenho vão mais no sentido de que não vai haver...

E eu já não estou aguentando de tanta ansiedade de ter o livro:vergonha:

Acabei de fazer a encomenda na Amazon inglesa... chega dia 28 no máximo.:aprovado:

Cacau

15/09/2006, 10h47

Cris,

Parece que tá confirmada a edição espanhola. Será possivel que Portugal vai ficar de fora?:dúvida:

U2 por U2
La banda irlandesa narra tres décadas de historia en su primera biografía

Bono, líder de U2, en su último concierto en Madrid. Foto: Alberto Cuéllar
Varios acontecimientos convierten al grupo irlandés U2 en protagonista del otoño musical, antes de que en 2007 aparezca su nuevo disco. Al lanzamiento en Dvd, el próximo lunes, de la legendaria gira ZooTV, le sigue la aparición de la primera biografía oficial en la que la banda que lidera el cantante Bono repasa sus tres décadas de historia.
Habían dicho grandes cosas sobre ellos, elevándolos incluso a la categoría de mesías. Algunas de estas afirmaciones resultaban difícilmente demostrables, como que se habían convertido en el grupo de rock más importante de todos los tiempos, que eran la banda que abanderaba el cambio musical del siglo o que se trataba del ejemplo vivo de que la música pop no está condenada a la superficialidad. Pero lo que resulta innegable es que han vendido más de 130 millones de discos, han reventado los estadios más grandes de los cinco continentes y han utilizado su fama para adoctrinar a las masas sobre la injusta situación del planeta. Necesitaban urgentemente una biografía.

Revisar de manera meticulosa las vidas de los cuatro miembros de U2 era una cuenta pendiente. La industria discográfica había realizado algunos intentos, en forma de DVD documental, pero faltaba el gran trabajo bibliográfico.

Una obra tan amplia y bien documentada como la que se presenta en Londres, el próximo 22 de septiembre, con el no demasiado imaginativo título de U2 por U2 (en España editado por RBA al precio de 55 euros). Y con unas medidas de seguridad dignas de un gran estreno cinematográfico: nada de fotógrafos, nada de imágenes. Sólo la fotografía de la portada, en la que se puede ver a cuatro pimpollos irlandeses cubiertos de acné incapaces de imaginar el lío en que se estaban metiendo. Corría la segunda mitad de la década de los 70 y los miembros de la banda, adolescentes que estudiaban en la escuela Mount Temple de Dublín, tramaban algo grande: formar una banda de rock and roll. Desde entonces han pasado 30 años.

Crónica de tres décadas
U2 por U2 es la gran crónica de esas tres décadas realizada por Neil McCormick, crítico de rock del diario Daily Telegraph. A lo largo de dos años el periodista británico ha charlado con Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton, Larry Mullen, los miembros del grupo, y Paul McGuinness, su manager. Más de 150 horas de entrevistas en las que los artífices del éxito de U2 ofrecen una imagen, no podía ser de otra manera, excelente. Son una banda de rock que ha surgido de las alcantarillas, y que ha alcanzado la gloria sin olvidar sus raíces: la familia, la tierra, la fe, la justicia.

Y la fama, un alimento indigesto que la banda que ha sido numero uno en todo el mundo, no se cansa de consumir. Bono, nominado al premio Nobel de la Paz, deidad suprema del rock para grandes almacenes y enormes estadios, insinúa en una de las escasas frases del libro que ha filtrado su editorial un cierto desequilibrio emocional: “Uno no se convierte en estrella del rock a menos que tenga una carencia de algo. Eso lo tengo muy claro. Si estás en tu sano juicio te sientes normal sin necesidad de que setenta mil personas te repitan a gritos cada noche que te quieren”. Mucho más prudente The Edge, guitarrista y alma en la sombra del sonido de la banda, cree que “el rock and roll es capturar un momento, es un instinto, no se trata de sentarte y ponerte a escribir en la quietud de tu estudio”.

U2 por U2 es un libro amable sobre el éxito de una banda de rock. Un libro que, imagino, no incluye la decisión de la banda de trasladar parte de sus negocios a Holanda, país donde los impuestos sobre los derechos de propiedad intelectual son mínimos. Ni las declaraciones de Joan Burton, portavoz de Finanzas del Partido Laborista Irlandés: “Habiendo escuchado a Bono hablar sobre la necesidad de que el gobierno irlandés destine más fondos a programas de ayuda exterior, me sorprende que U2 no esté dispuesto a contribuir al fisco de una forma justa, como la mayoría de los contribuyentes de este país”.

U2 por U2 es una lectura obligada para las hordas de fans que, desde la publicación del CD How to dismantle an atomic bomb en 2004 y la posterior gira Vertigo, quieren saciar sus necesidades con noticias de la banda. Bono, entrevistado recientemente por la televisión bosnia durante unas vacaciones, afirma que su nuevo álbum, para el que ya están escribiendo nuevas canciones, se editará en 2007. “The Edge está caliente”, aseguró, “y sus nuevos temas tienen química. Toca la guitarra mejor que nunca, y eso quedará reflejado en todo el álbum”.
J. PÉREZ DE ALBÉNIZ

Cacau

15/09/2006, 10h50

:chorando: Vai ter seção de autográfos em NYC:

NEW @U2 YOU, TOO, CAN MEET U2 ... EH?
September 15, 2006
posted by: m2
U2 fans living in Canada can win a trip to meet U2 in New York city thanks to Universal Music Canada. The small print describes the Grand Prize like this: R/T airfare to New York "departing on or around September 25th, 2006", two nights accommodations, and a "meet and greet with U2 (subject to artist availability) at a secret event to be determined by the Sponsors." U2 will be in New Orleans on the 25th, but is expected to head to New York after that for book-related promotional appearances. Contest is open until September 20th, so get over to umusic.ca and enter already.... (Thx TN)

LadyCygnus

15/09/2006, 10h54

Cristina Cruz

15/09/2006, 11h31

Cacau...sim, é possível ... A Espanha domina tudo. São o nosso vizinho rico e prepotente...Eu por agora desiti da edição portuguesa. Pedi na Amazon a edição simples do livro e a deluxe do dvd. Se sair em Português vou depois repensar se compro. Consoante o que vir e só comprarei se achar que vale a pena.

Mlpangelina

15/09/2006, 11h35

Aleh_Hewson

15/09/2006, 13h34

patic

16/09/2006, 16h01

edit: eu vi agora que tem essa matéria no atu2 também ;)

Once upon a time in Dublin

30 years ago four schoolboys in Dublin decided to form a band. The fact that most of them could'nt play a note didn't hold them back: a spark ignited and the U2 family was born. Here, Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr tell the story of how the world's biggest band began

BONO
Sometimes it comes across as if I got into U2 to save the world. I got into U2 to save myself. I meet people out on the street who approach me like I’m Mahatma Gandhi.
And when someone says, “Hail, man of peace,” I can hear Larry laughing under his breath: “You’re lucky he didn’t nut you.” The band are very bemused by my attraction to non-violence, because they know you couldn’t get further from the songs than the singer. They understand the reason I have been so attracted to these characters, the subjects of my songs – because in life and temperament I am so far from them. There is a rage in me, and it is not all injustice. I have developed good manners to disguise it.
Your nature is a very hard thing to change; it takes time. One of the extraordinary transferences that happens in your spiritual life is not that your character flaws go away, but that they start to work for you. A negative becomes a positive. You’ve got a big mouth: you end up a singer. You’re insecure: you end up a performer who needs applause. I have heard of people set free from addiction after a single prayer. But it was not like that for me. For all that “I was lost, I am found”, it is probably more accurate to say, “I was really lost, I am a little less so at the moment.” And then a little less and a little less again. That to me is the spiritual life. The slow reworking and rebooting of a computer at regular intervals. It has slowly rebuilt me in a better image. It has taken years, though, and it is not over yet.

THE EDGE
It seems impossible now to contemplate an existence outside of music, but I honestly don’t know if I would have become a professional musician if U2 hadn’t made me believe it was possible. We have been together all our adult lives, which demonstrates an incredible level of commitment and solidarity between four people who decided to form a band in 1975.
The chemistry of the personalities is a big factor. Bono is chairman and founding member of Over-Achievers Anonymous. He has an irrepressible drive to be great. He wants to achieve it all, which actually makes him very vulnerable. I am driven in different ways. I might have to take the 12 steps at Workaholics Anonymous. I have a curiosity that compels me to find ways to make music that are fresh and new. Adam and Larry are the counterparts to Bono and myself. Adam has incredible soul, the unlikely conscience of the band. Larry is the nuts and bolts, a practical, solid and deeply cautious person who is always going to rein us in when we get too excited. We grew up together, we learnt how to play music together. In many respects the way we think is almost telepathic.

ADAM CLAYTON
I always wanted to be a rock star. When I got my first bass guitar at the age of 15, that was it for me. I didn’t have a whole lot else going on in my life. If U2 hadn’t worked out, God knows where I would have ended up.
I wouldn’t describe it as fun recording with U2; it is work. Sessions are not exactly filled with laughter and joviality. Frequently, we’re being told how crap we are by Bono – and he includes himself in that assessment. Without a doubt, Bono is the driving force. No matter how you might try to describe him, the words would be inadequate, because there’s so much more to him. He has what you might describe as classic Alpha Male programming. He doesn’t see limitations, he only sees possibilities. In some ways, he is the psyche of U2, he represents things that are very much a part of all of us.
Edge is also very ambitious and driven, but you might not see that unless you know him well because it is slightly obscured by his humanity and kindness. Larry is a very sensitive guy and a loyal friend. He thinks about the world the same way he thinks about drumming: something is either in time or out of time. I can’t say what I bring to U2. It is not necessarily my bass playing. But something takes place when the band gets together. It is unquantifiable but it has always been the thing that excites me the most. It’s the thing that we built U2 on.

LARRY MULLEN JR
You might say I chose the wrong career, and you may be right. Playing drums and being creative in the studio are my drugs of choice. When I started out doing this, any idea of becoming rock stars was laughable.
You could say U2 are a democracy. The decision-making process is the same now as when we started. Those with the ability to debate, argue and articulate their views win the day. If you are in a band with someone as talkative, argumentative and persuasive as Bono, well, things can be kind of difficult for the rest of us. We are four very, very different people with diverse personalities. If there is something special about U2 it has nothing to do with us as individuals. When we play music together, something happens.

PATHS COLLIDE
ADAM I was born in 1960 into a house full of women and full of music: two forces which have pretty much dictated the shape of my life. My dad was an RAF pilot. When I was four years old, dad found work in Kenya flying for East African Airways. By 1965, it was getting quite dangerous to be a white person there. My dad had job offers in Ireland and Hong Kong, but Ireland seemed closer to the family, so we came here, settling in Malahide, a suburban coastal town about eight miles from Dublin. I went to the local National school and it was there that I met David Evans, The Edge, for the first time, although I have no real memory of it. We didn’t really bond until we came to know each other again in the band.
At the age of eight, I was sent to a boarding school over on the other side of Dublin Bay. I moved school again when I was 13, [and] early on I fell in with a boy called John Leslie, who could play guitar. John persuaded me that we could start our own group. He wanted to play electric guitar, so he said I should play bass. So there I was, 15 years old, with a dark-brown Ibanez-copy bass guitar and no amp. I had no idea what I was supposed to do with it. It just sounded good to me. Deep and fat and satisfying.
My grades were so bad the following year that my parents said they were not prepared to keep me at this expensive school. I thought that was it, the musical career was over. And so I was dispatched to Mount Temple, a comprehensive school in north Dublin.
[B]BONO[/B] You don’t become a rock star unless you’ve got something missing somewhere, that is obvious to me. If you were of sound mind or a more complete person, you could feel normal without 70,000 people a night screaming their love for you.
I was a freckle-faced kid who was difficult to tie down from the very beginning, a messer full of life and mischief, noisy, maybe a little too much testosterone. I should admit to my first family nickname: the Antichrist. It wasn’t completely wide of the mark. I haven’t met many other kids who were nicknamed the Antichrist!
My father was a very strict man, but his severity was wasted on me. He was an autodidact and a very bright fellah. He taught himself Shakespeare and listened to opera all the time. I never thought of singing as a career, but I remember singing hymns and it stirring up this really strong feeling of being moved by the music. When it was time for me to go to secondary school, my mother took me down to be interviewed by the headmaster of St Patrick’s grammar school. It was linked to St Patrick’s cathedral and it was well known for its boys’ choir. I spent a year there, not being happy, and basically they asked me to leave. I was caught throwing dog shit at the Spanish teacher. I did not have a high opinion of her, and I suspect the feeling was mutual.
So I left St Patrick’s and went to Mount Temple. The moment I arrived I felt alive. It was very progressive, co-educational and non-denominational. There were only two such free schools in the country. It was an amazing place, and we all felt privileged to go there.
I remember waking up and my mother wasn’t around. I was told, “Something has happened with your grandfather.” The next time I saw her was at the graveside, watching her father being buried. And then she collapses. She had suffered a brain haemorrhage. She stayed alive for about four days, I think. Some powerful things happened in those few days, very powerful things. I read the Bible and I prayed to God not to let my mother die. Then there were just three men living on their own in a house. It ceased being a home. It was just a house, with three men killing each other slowly, not knowing what to do with our sense of loss and just taking it out on each other.
Questions filled my teenage head. My mother’s death just threw petrol on the fire. The big questions built to a crescendo. I felt hopeless. I thought about suicide. I was sent to a psychologist who lived round the corner, and she was very cool. She listened to me. And after a few weeks she said, “I really don’t think you need to come back here. You’re fine. You just had some kind of trauma.”
It was 1976, and two things happened in the same few weeks and they both saved my life. The first thing is that I had a vision of my future. I remember I’d seen this girl when she first came to the school, very early on, and thought she looked Spanish, a rose for sure, dark with blood-red lips. She looked like she was in a pool of water, walking through it. There was something so still about her, and to a person who is not still, it was the most attractive thing in the world. And that was Ali, who within a few weeks would become my girlfriend, and within a few years my wife. And then another amazing thing happened. I joined a band. Nothing much has changed since then. I’m still with Ali, and I’m still with the band.

[B]EDGE[/B] I was in St Andrew’s for a very brief period with Adam. Then he was shifted out to a posh prep school. So he disappeared off the radar when I was about seven and we didn’t meet again until he appeared in Mount Temple.
My best friend Shane started at Mount Temple, and he told me about this wild kid in his class called Paul Hewson. There was some story involving a small fire, and some rivet-gun caps. So I heard about Bono a couple of years before I even met him. You could say his reputation preceded him. I’d been playing guitar for a while, and I saw Bono on one of the lunchtime breaks, sitting down with a guitar trying to impress some girls. We didn’t hit it off particularly, but I couldn’t help but observe that I was a better player and yet he was more popular. I made a mental note that perhaps the way you carried your guitar was as important as how well you could play it.
Before the new school year, during the summer of 1976, my mother said, “You remember Adam Clayton? He is going to your school this year.” So I was actually looking out for Adam, but it was literally about halfway through the term that I realised this weird hippy kid who was sporting a very brave Afro hairdo (which made him look like an albino Bootsy Collins) and an Afghan coat was, in fact, the kid I had known when I was seven. Larry, I had seen around. Then one day my music teacher, Albert Bradshaw, told me that Larry Mullen played drums, and wanted to form a band.
[B]LARRY[/B] It was my father who suggested I put a notice up on the school board for fellow musicians. We didn’t always see eye-to-eye, but through it all he was still watching my back. He was figuring, “OK, the kid wants to play drums, how do I help him survive and navigate this because he’s never going to be a brain surgeon.” So I put the now-legendary notice up. I think the wording went something like: “Drummer seeks musicians to form band.” I just thought of it as a bit of fun. After the notice went up, people asked if I knew, “Yer man Paul Hewson, he plays guitar.” I said I didn’t, but it turned out everybody knew who he was, so it didn’t take long for me to discover who I was going to have to deal with. I knew of Edge and Adam, so on Saturday September 25, 1976, this odd group of people convened in my kitchen in Artane. 
[B]A BAND IS BORN[/B]
edge It wasn’t a particularly auspicious beginning. There was a lot of talk, a lot of people playing songs they knew very badly trying to impress one another, trying to figure out if we had similar musical tastes. I remember thinking that I liked everybody, which was the most important thing; a sense that actually these are cool people.
[B]ADAM[/B] The strategy was to find a rehearsal room at school. Let everyone know we were in a band.
[B]EDGE[/B] Larry and I could play a bit, but Adam really couldn’t play, he kind of pretended. But by virtue of owning a bass there was no doubt he was going to be the bass player. Bono didn’t even have a guitar, but he seemed to think he was lead guitarist.
[B]LARRY[/B] It was obvious from the beginning that Bono was going to be the singer, not because of his great voice, but because he didn’t have a guitar, an amp or transport. What else was he going to do?
[B]BONO[/B] I had a few chords, a few songs I could play. The idea of wanting to sing, I don’t remember when that happened.
[B]EDGE[/B] Progress was slow and for a very long time we tried unsuccessfully to play a song, any song, from start to finish. I’m sure it was very comical, but we thought we were very cool.
[B]ADAM[/B] There was going to be a talent show in the school gymnasium at the end of term, and that was where we would make our debut. The gig was really the thing that we worked towards.
[B]LARRY[/B] I think we only had two songs, so that was our set. Peter Frampton’s Show Me The Way and, as a joke, Bye, Bye, Baby by the Bay City Rollers.
[B]BONO[/B] We walked on that stage, I was playing guitar, and when I heard that D chord, I just started to levitate. Forget about what we played, because that’s not important. I was singing, it was emancipation. That was a very special concert.
[B]LARRY[/B] After that, I think we were a band. We had managed to play in public without disgracing ourselves. It was as if my identity changed. I was no longer the blond kid hanging out in the corridor, I was now the kid in the band.
[B]WHAT’s in a NAME?[/B]
[B]LARRY[/B] We had a name for the band before we really had anything else. “Feedback”. Terrible name. Ask Edge about it.
[B]BONO[/B] I liked the name The Hype. But it was the name of a punk group in our heads, and it was clear that wasn’t where we were going. U2’s appeal was its ambiguity. It had open-ended interpretations. In my mind’s eye, I was thinking more of a U-boat than I was of Gary Powers and the spy plane, and I quite liked that. Strangely, it turns out that the train line in Berlin that took you to Zoo Station was called the U2 line. You see it everywhere you go in Berlin.
[B]EDGE[/B] It was the least bad of the bunch. We thought about it for a few days and said, “Well, it’s better than The Hype, why don’t we just go for it for the moment?” So we picked U2.
[B]ADAM[/B] The exact point of becoming U2 was a talent competition sponsored by Harp Lager in Limerick on St Patrick’s Day in March 1978. There was prize money of £500. We had entered as The Hype, and we realised that if we won it, then we would be stuck with The Hype. So we had to change the name before the competition.
[B]BONO[/B] There were bands there that could play in time and with great confidence, all of which we couldn’t pull off. But, you know, some bands have everything but it. We had nothing but it.
[B]EDGE[/B] I just remember we hit it.
[B]ADAM[/B] I remember the significance of us becoming U2 that night. It was a feeling of OK, now we’re where we should be, playing our own material and everything is in place. Next week: Top of the Pops!
[B]GETTING SERIOUS[/B]
[B]PAUL MCGUINNESS[/B] I went to Trinity College in Dublin to study psychology and philosophy. I lost interest in psychology almost immediately. At the end of my third year, I got a letter saying I wasn’t able to sit exams because I hadn’t been to any lectures. I had to leave.
Bill Graham was a friend of mine at Trinity. We often used to listen to music together, go to nightclubs and dream about the idea of taking an Irish band to the very top. I think Bill mentioned U2 in March 1978. The way I recall it, they hustled him into going to a rehearsal and played some songs and he said, “But those are Ramones songs!”
Then I started to get phone calls from Adam. Eventually, after a couple of missed opportunities. he came round to see me with a demo tape. Listening to it subsequently, it really was pretty rough, but it must have had something, because I agreed to go and see them.
[B]LARRY[/B] Paul made a big impression with his refined accent and well-groomed look. I remember he was very taken with Bono’s stage presence. And I assume he must have thought the rest of us were OK, because we talked about management.
[B]BONO[/B] Paul had an air of confidence about him. One of his great gifts is he makes something normal by saying it. An idea that seems difficult to envision becomes possible because he’s talking about it.
[B]ADAM[/B] We did our first demo at Keystone Studios, which was part of the Limerick competition prize.
[B]BONO[/B] I walked down into the basement of Keystone and there was the most beautiful girl in the world, with the most beautiful voice, sitting in reception. It was Mariella Frostrup. I remember the excitement of looking at the equipment. And then Larry Mullen Senior arrives and pulls Larry out of there because he was only 15.
[B]LARRY[/B] I had exams the next day, so we could only record for a few hours, then my dad came through the door and said, “I’ve got to take him home. He’s at school tomorrow.” And I was gone.
[B]EDGE[/B] School came to an end. We did a gig in the school car park, our farewell, and then it was time to decide what to do.
[B]BONO[/B] My dad gave me a year. He said, “Right, you can live at home for one year.”
[B]PAUL[/B] There was a period at the start of the summer where we circled each other. The band used to come round to my flat in Waterloo Road and we would have lots of meetings about how to take over the world. It took us a long time to secure a record deal, which I found frustrating and puzzling, because I thought U2 were so good, though probably those early tapes weren’t very impressive.
[B]DEAL OR NO DEAL[/B]
[B]EDGE[/B] Paul was taking the first demos around with mixed success. I thought he felt we weren’t necessarily ready, but Bono was adamant that with the second set of demos he wanted to get a deal.
[B]BONO[/B] Paul was not coming up with the van, and I’m just getting a bit tired of this. My old man is pointing out that my year at home is almost up. The heat is on. I can’t afford not to get a record deal, so I want to go to London and stir up interest.
[B]ADAM[/B] As we moved from being outside contenders to most-likely-to-succeed, record companies were coming to see us, but it was nerve-racking – there was always a hitch.
[B]PAUL[/B] An A&R scout called Chas De Whalley at CBS London picked up on it. He came up with some demo money and came over and produced some tracks. I suggested that we release the track as a single in Ireland only and in return CBS would have the right to release U2 records in Ireland even if we signed to somebody else. So in September the U23 EP was released as a seven-inch with a picture bag and a limited-edition numbered 12-inch.
[B]EDGE[/B] It was an amazing feeling, to actually have your first record and hear it being played on radio. I was also frustrated – I knew that we could do better.
[B]ADAM[/B] We were at an impasse and conscious that in terms of keeping our momentum in Ireland we had to create another stepping-stone in our career. The idea was to do a club tour in England
[B]PAUL[/B] I borrowed some money, and between us, we scrambled together enough to make the trip.
[B]ADAM[/B] We were on two quid each a day. We would pool our money and go to the local bad Italian restaurant, exotic stuff for us.
[B]EDGE[/B] Some of the shows were really good, some a bit of a mess. We did the Moonlight Club, the Hope and Anchor, the Rock Garden, Dingwalls, the Electric Ballroom supporting Talking Heads, and we saw a lot of record companies.
[B]BONO[/B] On that tour they were going to decide whether to sign us or not. This was a make-it or break-it situation.
[B]ADAM[/B] We were coming home for Christmas in a state of shock. London was a huge city, and the venues we had heard of as legendary gigs were really kind of toilets… and we weren’t able to fill them. It was pretty grim because we really had failed.
[B]BONO[/B] We had one last idea, which was based on the sense that the Irish press has a history of colluding with Irish people who cause a stir in the outside world, and fanning those sparks into a forest fire.
[B]ADAM[/B] We did a tour of wherever we could play in Ireland that was a big gig. The culmination of that tour was the National Stadium. It held 2,500 people, and it was where the biggest foreign bands would play. Booking ourselves in there was considered pretty cheeky.
[B]BONO[/B] And at that concert arrives an A&R man from Island Records who answers to the name The Captain, Nick Stewart. This is our homecoming gig and all our families are there.
[B]LARRY[/B] Nick Stewart came backstage after the show and offered us a record deal. It couldn’t have happened at a better moment. Later, hanging on in London, waiting for the deal, we all went to a gig one night at the Lyceum. Paul turned up with Nick Stewart and said, “I have the contract.” So we went into the girls’ toilets and signed our names.
[B]THE FUTURE[/B]
[B]BONO[/B] I don’t think anyone thinks this is a job for life. I always say two crap albums in a row and we’re out. That, and a fat arse, can close this operation down. I need this band. The truth is I need them more than they need me. That is the way I am wired. They raise my game.
[B]EDGE[/B] I think we’ve been able to keep it together because we’ve all grown up with each other. We know how it works. I think we all know, deep down, this is the forum in which we really excel. The day that U2 ends will be a sad day for all of us.
[B]PAUL[/B] It’s very odd for the same five men to have been working together for nearly 30 years. It’s been very difficult sometimes, but I’m also proud of what we’ve achieved in business. We always agreed that it would be pathetic to be good at the music and bad at the business.
[B]ADAM[/B] I don’t think I was destined for any kind of greatness in my life before U2. The best decision I ever made was to be part of U2, and I guess I haven’t needed to make another serious decision since then. I am eternally grateful that this band came along when it did. BONO I feel much more of a whole person now than I ever did. I seem to have resolved a lot of feelings for my father. That feels great. The reason why Sometimes You Can’t Make It On Your Own is not a miserable song is because it breaks open with the line “You’re the reason I sing, you’re the reason the opera is in me”. He is the reason I have this life, or at least a very large part of the reason. So I certainly have got to a place of peace with him.
I thank God on a daily basis for my life in U2, because not only did this job put my talents to use, it put my insecurities and weaknesses to use. That’s the miracle for me. U2’s definition of art is breaking open the breastbone, open-heart surgery. I wish there was an easier way, but, in the end, people want blood, and I’m one of them.
[B]LARRY[/B] I gave these guys their first job when I put the note on the school noticeboard. After 30 years, it’s a cool thing to still be making music with your friends. There is a lot of laughter in U2. Sadly, that rarely comes across. We are like a dysfunctional family, with all the laughter and tears that go with that. Personalities will not break up U2. Musical differences will not break up U2. We’ll break up because somebody squeezed the toothpaste from the wrong end.

[I]© U2 2006 [/I]
[I]Extracted from[/I] U2 by U2[I], to be published by HarperCollins on September 22 at £30. The book is also available from BooksFirst priced £27 (RRP £30), free p&p, on 0870 1608080; [/I]

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[I]muito, muito obrigada ao Victor que me passou o link:aprovado: :pulando: [/I]

Violet U2

16/09/2006, 16h05

Ai que tudooooooooooooooooooooo :aprovado: :aprovado: :aprovado:
Quero o meu livro agora.. :chorando: :chorando:
Adoreiiiiiiii Pati, agradece o Victor.. eu sou fã desse rapaz :aprovado:

patic

16/09/2006, 16h14

Ai que tudooooooooooooooooooooo :aprovado: :aprovado: :aprovado:
Quero o meu livro agora.. :chorando: :chorando:
Adoreiiiiiiii Pati, agradece o Victor.. eu sou fã desse rapaz :aprovado:

vai ter que esperar :P
seu livro só chega quando o meu chegar :lol:

vamos sofrer juntar :chorando:

Violet U2

16/09/2006, 17h19

vai ter que esperar :P
seu livro só chega quando o meu chegar :lol:

vamos sofrer juntar :chorando:
Então vamos :chorando: :chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

Tetefani

16/09/2006, 18h57

[quote=patic;165829]edit:

Adam I went to the local National school and it was there that I met David Evans, The Edge, for the first time, although I have no real memory of it. We didn’t really bond until we came to know each other again in the band.

EDGE I was in St Andrew’s for a very brief period with Adam. Then he was shifted out to a posh prep school. So he disappeared off the radar when I was about seven and we didn’t meet again until he appeared in Mount Temple.

(...)Before the new school year, during the summer of 1976, my mother said, “You remember Adam Clayton? He is going to your school this year.”

Eu não sabia q o Edge e o Adam já se "conheciam" antes de formar o U2.:dúvida:

patic

16/09/2006, 22h06

mais citações da Biff do Interference ;)
principalmente sobre o Edge

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

By special request, for the Edge-ophiles:

"I was a very cute toddler; I've seen the photographs. But then at around the age of five something started to happen that radically changed my appearance. We are not talking here about some accidental injury or anything medical, but a gradual transformation. And I don't mean to suggest that I became one of the obviuolsy ugly kids, more that my appearance started to inspire a certain mild alarm in adults who caught sight of me for the first time, and to elicit sympathetic and vaguely disappointed looks from my parents. My head grew, quite quickly, to an unfeasably large size. It was not a disagreeable head, in certain contexts it was quite handsome, but from the age of five as a result of this unusual development I started to look unnervingly like the kid on the cover of Mad magazine. Along with the head came the teeth, or specifically my two big front teeth. When they first appeared sprouting out of my gums, I knew there was something up. Their size was obvious from the beginning, and they grew in with a kind of terrible inevitability. No matter what form of mouth management I employed there was just no hiding them, so by age seven the full 'Mad magazine' look was complete. This was made all the more difficult by the fact that my best friend Shane, a person from whom I was pretty much inseparable from the age of two, was a dead ringer for a young Paul Newman, complete with cornflower-blue eyes and perfect teeth. He knew it, as did everybody else. A year older than me, Shane was superpopular, a great athlete and in many ways my nemesis. I went through some very formative years as the proverbial ugly duckling with my mate Shane a constant reminder that I was nothing special. The upshot was that I grew even more shy and awkward. I think that kind of experience is either the making or the breaking of you. And in my case having a very supportive home life helped a lot, but I didn't see that at the time....
My sister, Gillian, was born in 1963 into our male-dominated household. It took us a while to get used to her. I think my nose was put seriously out of joint when she arrived. I was the apple of my mother's eye up until that point, or certainly until I started to grow the large head....
My brother and I always had a very close rapport, and very similar sense of humour and general outlook. We hung out together, created various types of homemade explosives, petrol bombs, built bonfires, went on joyrides with our friends in dumper trucks borrowed from local construction sites, all the usual sort of stuff. And if people didn't quite understand us, we understood each other. We were a bit of a handful but very good-natured. It was the combination of curiosity, wildness, lack of strict parental control, and access to a fully stocked school chemistry lab that led to our experiments, anything really to break the tedium of the Dublin suburbs of the 1970s....
My best friend Shane was in my class at St. Andrew's. I was a year younger than the rest of the class and it was decided during my final year that I wasn't old enough to graduate. Shane went ahead into the big school and we sort of lost touch with each other. I met him one day soon after he had started at Mount Temple and he told me about this wild kid in his class called Paul Hewson. He seemed to share our interest on high explosives; there was some sort of story involving a small fire and some riveting caps taken from the building site that was to become our new school. So I heard about Bono a couple of years before I even met him. You could say his reputation preceded him."

On his first marriage:

"We had a month off in July '83 so Aislinn and I decided to grab the opportunity to schedule our wedding. We had no money so Aislinn's dad paid for the reception. We went with tradition and opted for the bride's church, the Catholic church in Blackrock. This involved a series of sessions with our priest, since I was protestant, to make us aware of the basics: any children would be raised catholic, and if Aislinn appeared to be overspending on groceries I wasn't to get mad at her. Thus equipped for life together we were duly married on 12 July. We went on our honeymoon to Sri Lanka. We had a wonderful time at first and then civil war broke out. We spent a very nervous few days trying to get back to our hotel from a road trip, forced to drive along deserted roads after the midday curfew, only to discover it had been evacuated of all foreign guests. We had to wait a few days to get on a plane home. All of this was unfortunately portentious of how the marriage would go."

On Sian's illness:

Edge: "In early December (2004), we were shooting a video for 'Sometimes You Can't Make it On Your Own' in Dublin when I got the news that my daughter, Sian, was very seriously ill. I told the guys, 'I've got to go'. From that moment, my world changed completely.

Bono: "Everything that we're about is community. The music comes out of the community. And so if somebody in the community has a trauma, all of us feel it. It threw everything. To see your mate with his heart broken and to see the bravery of this little seven-year-old girl...it was just an awful, awful moment."

Edge: "I don't want to go into too much detail. But my family went through some very intense times and Sian had to suffer through some awful experiences, which she continues to do with amazing fortitude for one so young. The strange irony is that when you spend a lot of time with your child in hospital you very quickly realize that there is always someone worse off than you. We always leave hospital with a strong sense of how lucky we are."

About some early performance disasters:

Larry: "We played a gig during a break at a school disco, in the basement of the old school building. It used to get really hot and sweaty down there, and the walls would drip with condensation. As we were playing, The Edge decided to run up the wall. He slipped and fell flat on his arse. I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry."

Edge: "In a moment of pure adrenalin, I tried to run up the wall, not realizing that this move might have been OK earlier on in the day but was now lethal, as the walls were dripping with sweat from a few hours of heaving disco. So I take a run at it and try to step up the wall but fail to get any traction whatsoever and my shoe slips and 'whack!', I end up flat on my back in the middle of the stage, still playing, in agony but pretending that it hadn't hurt at all.
We had lined up a gig up at the Nucleus, a little club in Raheny, but we played so badly at the school disco that the DJ who worked the the Nucleus, who was also from Mount Temple, wouldn't put us on. He insisted on coming to an audition. We played him some songs and very begrudgingly he put us on at the Nucleus. Before the show we decided to go and get drunk, because we knew that was what you did when you were in a rock band. So, as appalling as we normally were, we were just indescribably bad, and the sound was atrocious. We were in this tiny little prefab scout hut and we couldn't afford a proper PA. We recorded the show and a couple of days afterwards we listened to it in utter disbelief at what we were hearing. Bono was just bellowing and all you could hear was this really distorted noise that sounded like the early Stooges. Unfortunately I thnk we were playing an Eagles song. That was the same occasion Bono introduced 'Jumping Jack Flash' and my brother started playing 'Brown Sugar', getting his Stones mixed up. It was truly oine of the absolute low points. Everyone was out of tune. On the recording you can hear the DJ leaning in when we're halfway through the set saying, 'Would you ever just stop? Please stop! They're all sitting outside.' Listening back to that show, it was the first time I thought, 'Oh God, no! This isn't going to work.' We were so hopelessly inconsistent. One show would have that moment of promise and coming together then the next three would be utterly crap."

Su Scout

16/09/2006, 22h30

Larry: ...Personalities will not break up U2. Musical differences will not break up U2. We’ll break up because somebody squeezed the toothpaste from the wrong end.:lol::lol::lol:

Violet U2

17/09/2006, 01h05

Essa frase que vc separou tá demais Su :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lara Hewson

17/09/2006, 13h43

SPOILER WARNING xD

It was 1976, and two things happened in the same few weeks and they both saved my life. The first thing is that I had a vision of my future. I remember I’d seen this girl when she first came to the school, very early on, and thought she looked Spanish, a rose for sure, dark with blood-red lips. She looked like she was in a pool of water, walking through it. There was something so still about her, and to a person who is not still, it was the most attractive thing in the world. And that was Ali, who within a few weeks would become my girlfriend, and within a few years my wife. And then another amazing thing happened. I joined a band. Nothing much has changed since then. I’m still with Ali, and I’m still with the band.ps: "The reason she looked like she was walking through a pool of water is because he (Bono)was sitting on the back of his friend's motorbike, and he turned and saw her through the heat haze that was coming from the exhaust."

thanks biff e u2girl de novo :D

isso daria um belo filme :wub: :P

Nildo

18/09/2006, 13h18

E era esperado q eles falassem , mas nao tanto , o q me deixou ainda mais animado sobre o livro :

O Episodio Ressaca em Sydney , em detalhes e varias palavras :

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,585-2357793,00.html

Aleh_Hewson

18/09/2006, 14h17

é cada coisa mais linda que a outra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fico doidinha com esses trechos do livro que leio por aeh.....

alias...eu soube que eles vão fazer outras coisas alem de soh lançar o poster como extra da ed. deluxe....e realmente quem entra no amazon.com, vê que ele n mostra mais a capa sendo a msm...serah que vem mais coisa???

espero que sim

patic

18/09/2006, 21h07

mais quotes da Biff do Interference :aprovado:

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

Here are some quotes concerning the spiritual crisis the band faced during the recording of October:

Larry: "The recording was hard graft. We also had a problem with the Christian meetings hanging over our heads. Some in the Christian meeting felt we should give up the band and go and do something more spiritually edifying. Edge in particular was questioning everything. I felt that the meetings were starting to get scary, people were becoming really radical. Myself and my father had come to blows over the whole thing. He had studied theology and thought that we were simplifying something that was complex. We would go at it for hours. So we just stopped talking about it. Shalom continued to get more and more intense, there were frequent prayer meetings and considerable pressure to attend every one. It was as if your were awarded stripes for being there, and if you didn't show up, somebody was asking why. It was starting to feel all wrong."

Edge: "It was a little bit of a difficult time as we tried to reconcile completely contrasting imperatives. On one level to try and be as true on a spiritual front as we could be, and then on the other level to be in the best rock 'n' roll band we could ever be in. So there was an element of uncertainty going forward."

Larry: "The idea was to create a Christian community, where people would live and work under strict standards. When you're young and impressionable it all sounds ideal. But there was something terribly wrong with the concept. It was a bit like the bigger the commitment you made, the closer you were to heaven. It was a really screwed-up view of the world and nothing to do with what I now understand a Christian faith to be. There was huge pressure to follow that path and what made it even stranger was that rather than it coming from the church leaders, it was coming from our friends. I learned a lot though and I also gained a faith I didn't have before, and that's still with me."

Bono: "Edge left the band. But he didn't tell the band, he just told me, and I wasn't interested in being in the band if he wasn't. He was saying: 'This is great, what we're doing, but there is another world out there and that's what I want to be part of. And the real cure to the world's ills does not lie in a post-punk band but in developing yourself spiritually and finding your place and finding God's purpose for your life.' He was feeling at this point in time that he couldn't serve both God and man. I decided I couldn't either, so we both quit."

Edge: "It was a very, very clear fork in the road really. I wanted to take stock, to find out if what we were doing was in fact going down the wrong road. We were listening to all this negativity from people who were supposed to be our friends, telling us we can't continue in this band, it's not right. I said to Bono, 'Look, I'm quite happy to give this up if it's not the right thing for us but I need to find out. Are these people a little nuts or do they have an insight that I've been missing?' Bono understood my position and thought this was the right way to deal with it, hit it head on. He wasn't interested himself in going ahead if it wasn't the right thing. So I took a bit of time to get it straight in my own head who was to be trusted. I thought that the answer would become very clear, and it did."

Larry: "Edge left the band, I left the meetings."

Bono: "Giving up the band was very hard to do, because we both loved what we were doing. But something very powerful happened there. Sometimes you have to let go of what you love to really have it. Without being too melodramatic, it's like Abraham waits all his life for a son, and then God tells him to go down and sacrifice Isaac. It's one of the wildest episodes in the scriptures. But it seemed that when we got it back it was going to be even more powerful. The sort of spiritual ideas that were going around at that time were very profound but very heavy. Christ saying: 'He that loves his life shall lose it.' I mean, this is pretty extreme. This suggests that if you really want to live, you can't hold on to your life too tightly. You have to let go, you have to surrender. I'm not sure I understood that back then but, in my zealotry, I didn't want there to be anything in my life that came between me and God, including music. Because, of course, you can make anything an idol: it doesn't have to be money or it doesn't have to be fame - anything can get in the way. Smugness, for instance. Years later, I had a better understanding. You can hold on to something so tight it's like you've already lost it. And that's one of those deep spiritual insights that took me a long time to discover. It makes you very weak to want something so badly. When you let it go you're much more powerful. And something happened around that time, where we let go of the thing we'd wanted all our lives, the thing that had given me a way to face the world again, that made sense of me. That album, in a way, was where U2 said: 'We will go wherever we have to go. We will break all the rules of hipness. We will be as raw emotionally as we have to be, in order to be honest. Even after that, we were giving up the band. It was really pushing it as far as we could to prove that we couldn't be bought off by ambition. And I think it's an amazing thing, we nearly succeeded in derailing the band, but at the same time we regained it more fully."

Edge: "I felt very clearly that this band had something unique and special, and it was completely bogus to suggest that you couldn't have a legitimate spiritaul life AND be in the rock 'n' roll business. That was a dangerous piece of nonsense. That's not to say that the people involved in Shalom were in any way bad people, it's just that, in a group dynamic, ideas sometimes gain credibility when they really shouldn't. It was a necessary thing to get through.
It was the beginning of our extricating ourselves from that system of peer support. I'm sure it was a big relief to Adam when we started to drift away from that very close-knit group and trust our own counsel."

[They began to distance themselves from the Shalom community, but their own U2 community became increasingly more intimate]:

Edge: "We rented a little place on the beach in Howth, on the north side of Dublin. As soon as we got off the road [after the October tour] we started going there and working up ideas. The band were basically sponsoring a little house for Bono and Ali that we could also use as rehearsal space. No one minded, because they were skint and, like the rest of us, either living at home or in some dodgy flat."

Bono: "It was an old mews house; it might once have been a stable. It had three rooms, the band took the living-room, myself and Ali took the bedroom and we all shared the kitchen. It was an idyllic spot with the waves crashing on the walls of the house. I remember it as a really great time, songwriting and just being in a band."

Adam: "What must it have been like for Ali to have us in there? Amazing that she put up with us."

Bono: "In the interests of decorum, I would like to point out that Ali and I did not move in until we were legally wed. You know, I'm a bit of a stray dog. I would not have been in the queue to get married had I not met someone as extraordinary as Ali. I always felt more myself with her than with anybody. I met a beautiful couple on that tour and I was talking to them about the love of my life, and they were saying, 'Are you going to get married?' I said 'Well gosh, I never thought about that.' And they told me, 'If you've got that sort of thing, you should never let it go.' And I took their advice.
Adam was my best man. For all the crackle and pop of his lifestyle, Adam always had a kind of wisdom. He was the perfect gentleman, who believed in love, but at the time he seemed to believe in love with a lot of people. But I'd been having conversations with him about it and he always seemed to suggest that if you can find everything in one person, then you should seize the day. I also asked him because maybe I didn't feel as close with him as I did with the others."

Adam: "I thought it was an incredibly brave thing to do. At that point there wasn't really much money around and we were going to be away often, so I didn't really know how he was going to pull it together. But I'd known Alison for as long as I'd known Bono. It's been a very beneficial union. I think Bono without Ali would unleash an energy upon the world that might have as much negative effect as it has positive."

;)

patic

18/09/2006, 21h46

mais citações do livro postadas no atu2 retiradas do time.com;)

eu acho que vou ler o livro inteiro na internet antes da minha edição chegar em dezembro :oh: :lol:

muita coisa mesmo, até sobre o show que o Adam perdeu ;)

U2 on tour - in their own words

In this exclusive book extract, join Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr on the epic Zooropa tour as Bono meets Sinatra, Adam collapses and the band go wild in Tokyo

http://images.thetimes.co.uk/images/trans.gifBono I thought of Zooropa at the time as a work of genius. I really thought our pop discipline was matching our experimentation and this was our Sgt Pepper. I was a little wrong about that. The truth is our pop disciplines were letting us down. We didn’t create hits. We didn’t quite deliver the songs. And what would Sgt Pepper be without the pop songs?
NI_MPU('middle');
Edge I never thought of Zooropa as anything more than an interlude . . . but a great one, as interludes go.
Sarajevo
Bono The very same week Zooropa was released, a young American writer/film-maker called Bill Carter came to see us at our concert in Verona in Italy and asked would we do an interview for Sarajevo Television. Right on the edge of Europe there was a symbol of tolerance, where three ethnic groups — Croats, Serbs and Bosnians — lived together in peace. And this tolerance was being challenged in an appalling siege by Serbian forces.

Edge Bill’s idea was that U2 should go to Sarajevo and that would create a lot of publicity and help maintain the press profile of the siege.

Bono So I agreed in an emotional moment to do a gig there. And after I’ve agreed on Sarajevo Television, I then have to explain to the band why putting our lives at risk is going to help the people of Sarajevo.

Edge We looked at our schedule and tried to work out how to fit in Sarajevo. Logistically, it would have been impossible and Paul McGuinness pointed out that not only would we be risking our own lives, we’d be endangering our crew and our audience.

Paul [McGuinness, manager] Bill Carter went back to Sarajevo, where he managed to get together a little video unit. The European Broadcasting Union had a satellite link out of Sarajevo which we bought time on. And we started to do live satellite connections between U2’s concert and Sarajevo every night. Most of the Zoo show was scripted and highly rehearsed. The Sarajevo links were not.
Edge Some nights it felt like it was part of the concert but a lot of nights it felt like an abrupt interruption. It was hard to get back to something as frivolous as a show having watched five or ten minutes of real human suffering.

Paul Larry was pretty much against it. He thought we were exploiting other people’s misery for entertainment. Bono definitely felt that we were shining a light on something important.
[B]Larry[/B] We were playing a rock’n’roll show and it was lots of fun, and though the political stuff was serious it was done with a smile. Then we’d suddenly see video footage of people being bombed and a satellite link-up with people in Sarajevo saying: “We’re being killed, please come and help us.” That was really hard to watch.
Paul The worst night was Wembley Stadium, when three women came up on the screen and said, “We don’t know what we’re doing here. This guy dragged us in. You’re all having a good time. We’re not having a good time. What are you going to do for us?” Bono started to reply but they just cut him off. They said, “We know you’re not going to do anything for us. You’re going to go back to a rock show. You’re going to forget that we even exist. And we’re all going to die.” Right in the middle of the show at Wembley. And the show never really recovered.

Bono Salman Rushdie came on stage at the same concert. Again, tolerance was the subject we were playing with. Freedom of expression was a real issue in music. We tried to leaven the situation with some humour. I was dressed as the Devil and I whispered in Salman’s ear, “It’s inevitable that one always falls out with one’s biographer.”

[B]Bono and Sinatra[/B]
Bono During a little break in the tour, I recorded a duet with Frank Sinatra. I may not have been the most obvious choice to sing the classic[I] I Got You Under my Skin [/I]with the 77-year-old Chairman of the Board but I was more than flattered to be asked. Scheduling was difficult and we recorded our vocals in different countries. Then someone suggested we should make a video. We asked our friend Kevin Godley to direct. It was set up for one of Frank’s favourite bars in Palm Springs.
Edge We drove up to Palm Springs, met at the bar where the video clip was supposed to be shot. Simple idea. Bono walks in and sees his “old mate” Frank at the bar. Frank was incredibly charming and smart and witty and everything you would expect him to be but it was obvious that he was starting to suffer from some kind of lapses. You would suddenly see this look of confusion cross his face as he lost his bearings for a second. Everything went fine until Kevin, our director, asked Frank to do it again.
Bono So Kevin made me wait outside, cleared the room and left Frank standing at the bar, waiting for me. This was not a good idea, because Frank started to get agitated. He wasn’t sure what exactly was going on. He may have had a bit of a panic attack. They tried to calm him down by telling him he was shooting a video with Bono. He’d had some kind of short-term memory loss. His people were all very embarrassed. My people were all very embarrassed that I wasn’t Sonny Bono.
Edge I like to think he was just affronted by the very idea of being asked to do something a second time.
Bono He called later on to apologise. He said, “Listen, I don’t like to do a lot of takes. And when I’m hanging around sometimes I just get uncomfortable.” So we got together and shot some footage in the back of his limousine. Afterwards we all went out for something to eat in a Mexican restaurant. His wife Barbara was there. She walked in wearing a beautiful red trouser suit, upon which Frank remarked, “Jeez, Barbara, you look like a blood clot!” He was on great form, telling stories, drinking a giant tequila in a fishbowl-sized glass.
Edge I was sitting beside him and I watched as he picked up the blue napkin that was in front of him, stared at it, folded it up neatly and under his breath said, “I remember when my eyes were that blue.” It was not for anyone else to hear, he was really kind of muttering to himself. And he put the blue napkin in his inside jacket pocket to keep.
Bono He asked us back to his house, where a few more drinks were taken. There was a classic shtick going on between him and his barman, lines like, “Am I a boy or a man?” when the barman gave him half-measure. Trying to keep up with Sinatra’s intake had gone straight to my head and so I fell asleep. When I woke up, I had this sense of dampness between my legs and thought the impossible. “Oh, my God, could this really have happened? On the snow-white couch?! What a monumental defeat.” But I had just spilled my drink. Phew!

[B]Australia[/B]
[B]Larry[/B] By the time we got out to Australia, the tour had been going on for two years and people were really starting to go a little off the rails. I started to notice that Adam was drinking more and that he was drunk in the early afternoons. It never seemed to affect his gig, so no alarm bells were ringing. Adam was such a great drunk, he was great fun and not morose at all, at least not in public.
Edge Being on the road is very hard. Being on the road for a long time is even harder. It is a lifestyle that leaves you with little time to call your own but simultaneously it’s quite lonely.

[B]Adam[/B] Life was pretty chaotic. I don’t really like that kind of intensity. Every night was a party, but I don’t think I felt much contentment or peace.
I’d be fine during the day, I’d be fine for the gig but afterwards it was too easy to go out all night or just keep drinking in your room. I was beginning to realise that every time I drank, I couldn’t really be sure of the result. And it always made the next day worse. So I decided to lay off and stop drinking during the final leg of the tour. We were filming the concerts in Sydney Football Stadium for the big tour video. All I can say is that I remember the night before thinking, “Mmm, it might be nice to have a glass of wine.” The next thing I remember it was about 7 o’clock in the evening of the next day and people were trying to wake me up and see if I could go down and do the gig. I don’t really know what happened in the intervening time, other than that I’d been out for a bit and I’d gone through the mini bar in the room.
[B]Larry[/B] The shows in Sydney were a big deal. David Mallet was the director and he had 25 cameras set up. Adam didn’t turn up for the sound check. He was in his room and he wasn’t coming out. I called him on the telephone and eventually got through. I said: “What’s up?” He said: “I can’t do the gig.” In a million years that was the last thing I would have expected.
[B]Adam[/B] I was in complete meltdown, there was no way I could stand on stage for two hours.
Edge Obviously the timing was drastic because it was the big video that we were going to release of the Zoo TV tour. I think it was probably the pressure that tipped him over. He was in a terrible state but if you were to look at the weight of responsibilities that Adam was carrying versus, say, Bono, or even me, it would have been pretty low. But everyone deals with pressure in a different way.
[B]Larry[/B] It was the first time that somebody hadn’t turned up for a show. We were in shock but we had no time to stop and take it in, we just had to scramble and we rehearsed with Adam’s bass technician Stuart Morgan during sound-check. Stuart had been working with Adam for two years and knew the parts. He ended up doing the gig.
Edge We took the decision not to cancel the TV event but to use a stand-in. It was a tough decision but I think it was the right one. I think it helped Adam put everything in context. For the first time he heard the band play without him. I think that brought everything into focus for him.
[B]Adam[/B] It was an extraordinarily hard thing to face up to. In the big picture, missing a gig is not necessarily the worst offence in your life but, for me, it was the first time as a member of U2 that I had really let my bandmates down. And this wasn’t sickness or personal tragedy, this was self-inflicted. It appeared to be out of my control, which was very scary. Even the fact that 12 hours later I was still kind of shaky and f***ed up, that wasn’t good. Plus the fact that the band had a lot riding on it. It was a spectacular calamity. That gig was filmed but I have never watched it.
[B]Larry[/B] There was a meeting with Adam. We said, “Let’s just finish out the tour and deal with this when it’s over.” Adam was as freaked as we were. I think he got himself into a state and just couldn’t find his way through it.

[B]Adam[/B] They were pretty concerned and a bit pissed off as well. But they supported me in the decision that I made at the time, which was to say to them that I had a problem with alcohol. It was then that I officially stopped drinking.
[B]Tokyo[/B]
[B]Larry[/B] The tour ended in Tokyo. People needed to let off steam and Tokyo was just the place. We slipped off into the underbelly of this incredible science-fiction city. Things went a little crazy.

Bono I had always loved being in Japan but I was now head over heels, I wanted to go out all the time. Of course, we often had a lot of Japanese carers to accompany us. But one night I slipped out the back entrance of a bar to avoid our security and took off in the company of Fighting Fintan Fitzgerald, our head of wardrobe. We were joined by another good friend of ours from the music world, who I didn’t know at the time was battling with heroin addiction. The three of us went exploring. We ended up in some girl’s apartment, a small, traditional Japanese place, drinking some beers and chit-chatting. Some people started smoking a spliff and, though I don’t smoke spliffs, I did know that in Japan it was a ten-year prison sentence for doing so. It was explained to me that the police did not come here. This was a house run by the Yakuza, the Japanese mafia. “Well, that’s great,” I thought to myself. “I really feel safe now!”
I was tired and fell asleep on a bunch of coats. When I woke up I thought my drink had been spiked. I thought I was hallucinating. There was a six-foot boa constrictor crawling up my leg. I completely froze. I heard Fighting Fintan Fitzgerald saying: “Don't panic. My mother used to work in a zoo!” He picked up the snake and put it round his neck. Fintan knew no fear but the same could not be said of the snake. There was the sound of water being poured onto the ground and the cry went up from our brave wardrobe man, “It’s pissed all over me!” Snakes take a pee if they’re disturbed. One of the girls performed some kind of burlesque revue and the snake was part of her act.

Paul Everyone gets a little nutty after the end of a tour. You have physiological reactions that continue for months afterwards. Around about 9 o’clock you suddenly start going, “Where’s the show? Where’s the show?”
[B]Larry[/B] I remember Edge saying: “Hey, Larry, how about you and me buy a bus and travel around America and just do it for another year?” I looked at him and for a split second thought, “Oh yeah.” Because the alternative seemed too hard. Thankfully good sense prevailed. We went home.
[B][I]©[/I] U2 2006[/B]

Lara Hewson

18/09/2006, 22h13

Huhauahauhauhauhauha bono no japão, com a máfia e uma cobra na perna! de finitivamente uma das melhores histórias :lol:

Marybel

19/09/2006, 08h51

oi gente, soh nova aki...1° post ehehhe...

eu tenho uma duvidazinha basika....eu comprei a ed. Deluxe(ai meu $$$...) e soh veio um e-mailzinho e mais nada...eh assim mesmo? pq eu nunk comprei na Amazon...aeh eu queria saber se existe um meio de ver se realmente tem lah que eu comprei e tudo...comrprei pelo cartaum....e a data de entrega foi do dia 21/11-dezembro/janeiro.....pelo menos vai ser um natal feliz...
Oi Aleh,
O que a Amazon mandou para o seu e-mail foi a confirmação da encomenda. Como é apenas uma "pré-venda", eles não tem como disponibilizar mais informações, como por exemplo número do pedido ou número de controle do envio. Quando a edição Luxo sair finalmente, você receberá um outro e-mail, contendo mais informações, inclusive de cobrança. Fique sossegada!;)

hawkmoon269

19/09/2006, 22h04

alguém sabe qual a previsão pra sair aqui no Brasil???
pq tudo demora pra vir pra esse lado...
imagino a demora que não vai ser...:reprvd:

:** pra todos vcs

Marybel

20/09/2006, 08h47

alguém sabe qual a previsão pra sair aqui no Brasil???
pq tudo demora pra vir pra esse lado...
imagino a demora que não vai ser...:reprvd:

:** pra todos vcs

Você é uma pessoa paciente?
Então use toda a sua paciência, porque até agora, nem previsão nós temos!
Mas alguns posts atrás, um pessoal que têm ligação com editoras nacionais sugeriram que uma versão brasileira pode ser editada em 2007. É torcer para ser verdade!;)

Cacau

20/09/2006, 09h52

Será que vão cancelar a Deluxe?:dúvida:

Tem esse rumor no @u2:

NEW @U2 RUMOR: 'DELUXE' U2 BY U2 CANCELED
September 20, 2006
posted by: m2
A friend of @U2 with sources inside the publishing industry tells us that Harper Collins has decided against releasing a "deluxe" version of U2 by U2. The deluxe version was originally due out later this month, then postponed until later this year, and now it appears it's been canceled altogether. @U2's e-mails to Harper Collins today were not answered. The regular edition of the book is still due out next week.

Marybel

20/09/2006, 10h04

Será que vão cancelar a Deluxe?:dúvida:
Era só o que me faltava!:bravo:

Su Scout

20/09/2006, 10h13

Aiaiai!! Bom, até agora ninguém sabe pq ele tinha sido adiado né?! Agora essa...:(

Cacau

20/09/2006, 10h22

Era só o que me faltava!:bravo:

Tell me about it...:bravo: :chorando:

Mas eu vi muita gente comentando no u2.com que a diferença é que essa edição viria numa caixa e com o tal poster...se for só isso mesmo acho que muita gente deve ter cancelado a compra do deluxe e optado pela simples que é hardcover tb.;)

Pelo o que eu tinha lido na época, teria uns extras com fotos dos outtakes do R&R...e algumas cópias seriam autografadas (li isso no site da editora) mas não sei de mais nada...<_<

Su Scout

20/09/2006, 13h19

Tell me about it...:bravo: :chorando:

Pelo o que eu tinha lido na época, teria uns extras com fotos dos outtakes do R&R...e algumas cópias seriam autografadas (li isso no site da editora) mas não sei de mais nada...<_<

Nossa, eu morreria se fosse autografado:P

Marybel

20/09/2006, 14h25

Nossa, eu morreria se fosse autografado:P
Por que você acha que eu encomendei a Deluxe, Su? Lógico que esperando que isso pudesse se tornar verdade!!!

E olha que eu encomendei a minha sem mesmo sair a restituição do IR. Tô ficando totalmente fora de controle por causa desses caras mesmo, viu!!!<_<

Su Scout

20/09/2006, 15h58

Por que você acha que eu encomendei a Deluxe, Su? Lógico que esperando que isso pudesse se tornar verdade!!!

E olha que eu encomendei a minha sem mesmo sair a restituição do IR. Tô ficando totalmente fora de controle por causa desses caras mesmo, viu!!!<_<

Hahaha, e eu que tenho que ficar despistando minha mãe nessas minhas aquisições, se ela sabe de todos os detalhe eu vou ouvir pouco.:lol:

Marybel

20/09/2006, 17h03

Hahaha, e eu que tenho que ficar despistando minha mãe nessas minhas aquisições, se ela sabe de todos os detalhe eu vou ouvir pouco.:lol:
A minha já desistiu de qualquer influência que ela possa exercer!:lol:

bona

20/09/2006, 21h43

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/bonau2/paer4.jpg

patic

21/09/2006, 09h23

Su Scout

21/09/2006, 09h35

patic

21/09/2006, 09h48

Ainda bem que eu garanti o meu autografado:D
Brincadeira:P
E agora hein... será que foi cancelado:dúvida:

no atu2.com está dizendo que a página do livro foi retirada do ar:dúvida:
e é verdade, como eu tinha visto mais cedo, e parece mesmo que vai ser cancelado.
Só espero que eles avisem já que vou ter que garantir minha edição normal :dúvida:

ps: olha isso
Update: Another source in the publishing industry tells @U2 that HarperCollins publicity has confirmed that U2 has cancelled the deluxe edition of U2 by U2 "for unspecified reasons." Also worth nothing: The Amazon.com page (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?link_code=ur2&tag=u201&camp=1789&creative=9325&location=%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F0061214760%2F) for the deluxe edition has been removed.

Marybel

21/09/2006, 10h37

fui procurar pela edição deluxe na amazon agora e agora está aparecendo dessa forma:dúvida:

1.http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/x-site/icons/no-img-sm._V52596618_.gifThis item is currently not available. Other Edition(s): Hardcover (http://www.amazon.com/U2/dp/0060776757/sr=1-1/qid=1158841235/ref=sr_oe_1_1/102-4763723-6245761?ie=UTF8&s=books)

não está mais disponível para venda :dúvida:

no atu2.com está dizendo que a página do livro foi retirada do ar:dúvida:
e é verdade, como eu tinha visto mais cedo, e parece mesmo que vai ser cancelado.
Só espero que eles avisem já que vou ter que garantir minha edição normal :dúvida:

ps: olha isso
Update: Another source in the publishing industry tells @U2 that HarperCollins publicity has confirmed that U2 has cancelled the deluxe edition of U2 by U2 "for unspecified reasons." Also worth nothing: The Amazon.com page (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?link_code=ur2&tag=u201&camp=1789&creative=9325&location=%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F0061214760%2F) for the deluxe edition has been removed.
Eu ainda tinha esperanças de que o número disponível desta edição tinha se esgotado!:(

Mas tudo bem. Vai ver é Santa Edwiges intercedendo por esta fiel que gasta muito de suas economias com esses jovens irlandeses!!!:P

Su Scout

21/09/2006, 10h41

Eu pensei a mesma coisa, tem males que vem pro bem:P

Bonolocks

22/09/2006, 09h34

Dia de autógrafos...
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Hoje o U2 estará no centro de Londres autografando o Livro "U2 by U2". O site banda disse que 150 assinantes do u2.com foram sorteados para receberem os autógrafos na biografia. Resta-nos esperar pelas fotos do evento.

Fonte:u2br

Su Scout

22/09/2006, 09h42

:(

@U2 reader Robert Q. points us to Chapters Canada (http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978006121476/0061214760/U2+by+U2+Deluxe+Edition?ref=Search+Books%3a+'U2+by +U2'), which includes this message about the deluxe edition: We’re sorry, the publisher has cancelled this edition.

Su Scout

22/09/2006, 10h47

Algumas fotos:)
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Marybel

22/09/2006, 11h10

Algumas fotos:)
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Ai Su!
Enlouqueci com estas fotos!!! O livro é gigante!!!:aprovado:
Agora não sei se espero a Amazon confirmar o cancelamento da edição Deluxe pra pedir a edição Standar ou se já vou logo fazendo o pedido novo!:P

Violet U2

22/09/2006, 11h41

Sabe Marybel, eu acho que vc deveria esperar mais um pocuo, isso se vc quer realmente a deluxe... pq eu não sei não, mas acho que eles não iam cancelar assim. Acho que eles retiraram somente pra poder vender mais agora...
E se fosse mesmo cancelado, eles já teriam comunicado quem encomendou o deluxe..

Marybel

22/09/2006, 12h12

Giu_Hewson

22/09/2006, 12h31

Algumas fotos:)

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i202/Suscout/71968596.jpg

O Bono e o Larry estão lendo de ponta cabeça :ROTFLOL: :ROTFLOL: :ROTFLOL:

Aleh_Hewson

22/09/2006, 12h35

aí agora foi que deu....mas né possível uma coisa dessas....mas pensando bem, passando o susto inicial....é quase impossível que a amazon faça uma coisa dessas e não avise ao pvo que comprou....:reprvd:
ahhhhhhhhhh....que raiva!!!!!!!!

Violet U2

22/09/2006, 12h38

Mais fotos pessoal :aprovado:
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Su Scout

22/09/2006, 12h49

O Bono e o Larry estão lendo de ponta cabeça :ROTFLOL: :ROTFLOL: :ROTFLOL:

Eu também percebi isso:lol:
Sei lá, talvez tenha alguma foto que exija virar o livro, ou fizeram de gracinha, ou erraram na pose e depois vão rir muito com tudo isso.:P

Reforçando: Eu quero meu livro e com um poster do tamanho daquele quadro:chorando:

À tempo: Que fotos maravilhoas do Larry e do Edge!

Aleh_Hewson

22/09/2006, 12h58

ai que fotos!!!!

neh por nada naum, mas Bono soh levou esse oculos na mala, foi? pq no evento da Armani era ese oculos que ele tava, pra tirar foto com o Green Day tb.....mas quem se importa? ele continua a coisa mais linda do mundo

Be Strong

22/09/2006, 14h01

A transcrição de inúmeras horas de entrevistas e testemunhos dos componentes do grupo e de seu representante, Paul McGuinness, guiados pelo crítico de rock Neil McCormick, foram reunidos no livro, que chegará ao Brasil em 3 de novembro. fonte:http://musica.terra.com.br/interna/0,,OI1152736-EI1267,00.html

Beleza!!!!!

Marybel

22/09/2006, 14h11

Beleza!!!!!
Será que eles não estão se referindo àquela importadora, que trará a versão americana do livro por aquele preço absurdo que já foi postado aqui?<_<

Bonolocks

22/09/2006, 14h40

Mais trechos do "U2 by U2"...
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c114/u2nobrasil2006/U2/U2_by_u2_usatoday.jpg

Agora no USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-09-21-U2-book_x.htm)

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-09-21-U2-book_x.htm

Be Strong

22/09/2006, 14h41

Será que eles não estão se referindo àquela importadora, que trará a versão americana do livro por aquele preço absurdo que já foi postado aqui?<_<

Acho que não. Chegará ao Brasil em 3 de novembro. Em posts anteriores alguém mencionou que uma parceria da Ediouro (editora brasileira) com a Thomas Nelson (editora americana) faria o lançamento do livro no Brasil.

Eu acho quase impossível o livro (edição normal) não ser lançado no Brasil. Se isso acontecer é porque as editoras são muito burras.

Cristina Cruz

22/09/2006, 15h37

Só para vos dizer que encomendei na amazon inglesa e o livro já foi despachado de Londres. Ou seja, despacharam-mo um dia antes do previsto.

Su Scout

22/09/2006, 15h47

Só para vos dizer que encomendei na amazon inglesa e o livro já foi despachado de Londres. Ou seja, despacharam-mo um dia antes do previsto.

Foi o simples?

Cacau

22/09/2006, 16h20

Ai Su!
Enlouqueci com estas fotos!!! O livro é gigante!!!:aprovado:
Agora não sei se espero a Amazon confirmar o cancelamento da edição Deluxe pra pedir a edição Standar ou se já vou logo fazendo o pedido novo!:P

Tô na mesma aqui, Bel;) :chorando:

Cristina Cruz

22/09/2006, 16h31

a simples. Aqui em Portugal tb estão comentando que a deluxe foi cancelada.

Bonolocks

22/09/2006, 17h30

Há 30 anos, em Dublin, quatro estudantes decidiram formar uma banda de música por causa de um anúncio colocado no mural de um colégio. Assim, "sem expectativas", nascia em 1976 o U2, uma das bandas mais influentes do planeta, cuja autobiografia, U2 por U2, foi apresentada nesta sexta-feira em Londres.
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Os músicos do U2 no lançamento do livro

Com suas palavras, o carismático líder e vocalista, Bono, o guitarrista Dave Evans, mais conhecido como "The Edge", Larry Mullen, na bateria, e o baixista Adam Clayton revivem momentos.

Acompanhados por imagens, os músicos relembram o vertiginoso salto de quatro adolescentes com poucas idéias na hora de tocar um instrumento dos clubes dublinenses até o estrelato mundial.

A transcrição de inúmeras horas de entrevistas e testemunhos dos componentes do grupo e de seu representante, Paul McGuinness, guiados pelo crítico de rock Neil McCormick, foram reunidos no livro, que chegará ao Brasil em 3 de novembro.

A história do quarteto irlandês mais famoso do mundo começa com o anúncio na escola de Mount Temple (Dublin) de um menino que tocava bateria (Larry Mullen Jr) e queria formar uma banda, desejo compartilhado por Dave Evans; Paul Hewson, o "Bono"; e Adam Clayton.

De algo que surgiu "para passar o tempo, nada mais, sem grandes idéias, sem expectativas", segundo relata Mullen na autobiografia, quatro meninos com personalidades diferentes colocavam em andamento o projeto U2.

"Assim, em 25 de setembro de 1976, um estranho grupo de pessoas se reuniu em minha cozinha, em Artane (Dublin). E ali foi onde tudo começou", lembrou.
U2 por U2 relata a meteórica evolução da banda desde seus shows sem compromisso, com o punk dos anos 70, a sucessão de seus primeiros álbuns como Boy (1980), October (1981), War (1983), sua explosão no rock com The Joshua Tree (1987), seus acordes mais pós-modernos de Achtung Baby (1991) e os trabalhos mais recentes como All That You Can't Leave Behind (2000) e How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb (2004).

Bono, indiscutível alma do quarteto, um homem extremamente comprometido com a luta pela paz e pela justiça, está convencido de que "uma pessoa não se transforma em estrela do rock, a menos que tenha carência de algo".
"Isso eu tenho muito claro. Se (uma pessoa) está equilibrada e em sã consciência, poderia se sentir normal, sem ter 70 mil pessoas gritando a cada noite que te amam", declarou.

Bono admite que entrou no U2 "para salvar a si mesmo" e diz que hoje há pessoas que se aproximam dele na rua "como se fosse Mahatma Gandhi".
Adam Clayton, "o menino que usava casaco de pele de carneiro afegão, óculos e fumava", segundo Mullen, ou "o hippie tão raro, de quem sobressaía um vistoso penteado afro", como "The Edge" o vê, sempre teve clara sua vocação.

"Eu sempre quis ser uma estrela do rock. Quando consegui meu primeiro baixo, aos 15 anos, descobri que era feito para mim. E não tinha nenhum grupo a quem me unir", confessa Clayton.

A mesma paixão é revelada por "The Edge", que reconhece: atualmente, para ele é "impossível" conceber sua vida fora da música. "Boa música, idéias originais e organizar shows emocionantes e espirituais" são, segundo Evans, os motores do U2 desde o início e continuam vigentes no espírito do grupo.
Dave Evans assegura que todos os motivos que faziam da idéia de formar a banda algo fabuloso naquele momento "ainda perduram".

O U2, grupo em que seus componentes não são "músicos particularmente competentes", segundo o guitarrista, "possivelmente não seja a banda mais profissional musicalmente da história do rock'n'roll", mas é uma "das mais originais".
A "química das personalidades" é outra chave para que a maquinaria irlandesa continue funcionando, segundo "The Edge".

Fontes: http://musica.terra.com.br/interna/0,,OI1152736-EI1267,00.html

http://musica.uol.com.br/ultnot/efe/2006/09/22/ult1819u682.jhtm

Bonolocks

22/09/2006, 17h45

Mais umas fotinhos do lançamento hoje:

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http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/270/3798/320/waterstones4.0.jpg (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/270/3798/1600/waterstones4.0.jpg)

Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h34

Todas as fotos são da Violet, eu só copiei dela e coloquei aqui ;)

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Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h35

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Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h37

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Carambaaaaa, tô me sentindo o Marcelinha com tanta foto.. se estiver no lugar errado me avisam, please :oh:

Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h38

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Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h39

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Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h40

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Ai que amor :wub:

Louisevans

22/09/2006, 18h42

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patic

22/09/2006, 19h26

:( alguém mais recebeu?:chorando:
chegou agora a tarde :chorando:

Hello from Amazon.com.

We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following
item from your order:

U2, Neil McCormick "U2 by U2 Deluxe Edition"

Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've
since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this
time. We realize this is disappointing news to hear, and we apologize
for the inconvenience we have caused you.

We have cancelled this item from your order.

Note: If you took advantage of a promotional offer when placing this
order, this cancellation may affect your order's eligibility for that
offer. If this is the case, please contact customer service; if we
confirm your original order was eligible, we'll reimburse you for the
value of the promotional discount. However, we can't reimburse you for
rebates offered by manufacturers or by Amazon.com.

Your credit card will NOT BE CHARGED for this item because you only
pay for items when we ship them to you.

Your order is now closed.

vou comprar o simples agora :(

Cacau

22/09/2006, 19h28

:( alguém mais recebeu?:chorando:
chegou agora a tarde :chorando:

vou comprar o simples agora :(

Acabei de receber.:bravo:

Bonolocks

22/09/2006, 19h31

vou comprar o simples agora :(

Eu vou esperar a edição que chegará aqui em 3 de novembro.

Cacau

22/09/2006, 20h00

Eu vou esperar a edição que chegará aqui em 3 de novembro.

Mas é bem mais cara do que pedir pela Amazon!;)

:assobio: Tenho uma teoria pro cancelamento da Deluxe:

- A culpa é do Larry:P

Ele se recusou a assinar todos aqueles livros porque ia ficar com o pulso doendo e ia atrapalhar sua performance na bateria.:lol:

patic

22/09/2006, 20h17

Eu vou esperar a edição que chegará aqui em 3 de novembro.

que edição é essa? :dúvida: :dúvida: :dúvida:

ps: já encomendei a edição simples <_< :P

Tetefani

22/09/2006, 22h43

A transcrição de inúmeras horas de entrevistas e testemunhos dos componentes do grupo e de seu representante, Paul McGuinness, guiados pelo crítico de rock Neil McCormick, foram reunidos no livro, que chegará ao Brasil em 3 de novembro.

Alguem tem mais informações sobre essa "edição"?:dúvida:

Su Scout

23/09/2006, 00h29

Eles estarão em Dublin hoje

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/22/arts/EU_A-E_MUS_Ireland_U2.php

LadyCygnus

23/09/2006, 01h33

Do site CifraClub:

Livro sobre escalada do U2 chega ao Brasil no início de novembro

http://cifraclub.terra.com.br/contrib/noticias/u2_1158950820.jpgHistória do U2 é contada pela banda em livro
22 de Setembro de 2006
U2 por U2 é o nome do livro que contará a história anterior ao sucesso estrondoso desta que é uma das bandas mais cultuadas do planeta. O livro conta com uma infinidade de depoimentos e trechos de entrevistas dos integrantes do grupo, além de seu representante. Tudo guiado pelo crítico Neil McCormick.
O livro inicia o relato na adolescência de Paul Hewson (Bono), Larry Mullen, Adam Clayton e Dave Evans (The Edge), quando se reuniram para tocar, ainda que sem boas idéias, no ano de 1976. Com a progressão da banda, saíram três discos até que The Joshua Tree fez com que o quarteto irlandês explodisse em direção ao resto do mundo.
U2 por U2 deve chegar ao Brasil no dia 3 de novembro.

Cacau

23/09/2006, 09h35

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:chorando: Uma sorte dessas a gente não vai ter por aqui...os 4 sentadinhos como uma linha de produção autografando esses livros...:lol:

A menos que eles estejam aqui no dia 3 de Novembro.:P

E ai? Essa edição que chega aqui é aquela em inglês por aquele preço absurdo??? Álias se CHEGA aqui é porque deve ser a importada mesmo.;)

Marybel

23/09/2006, 09h39

Eu tô brava porque também recebi o cancelamento da Amazon!:(
Pessimista porque ainda acho que o livro que chegará aqui em 3 de novembro será a edição americana (lembram daquele artigo que saiu no ObaOba, falando inclusive do preço das duas edições?<_< ).
Mas como eu não me aguento, já tomei duas atitudes: a primeira, encomendei a versão standard do livro. A segunda, mandei uma mensagem para o serviço "fale-conosco" destes dois sites que publicaram esta notícia da chegada do livro em novembro, tentando esclarecer justamente isso: se será uma versão em português ou não!:dúvida:

Cacau

23/09/2006, 09h55

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swapContent('firstHeader','applyHeader');By Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY
Arguably the greatest rock band on the planet, U2 now offers the definitive version of how it got there.
U2byU2 (HarperCollins, $39.95) has 1,500-plus images and a rich band autobiography culled from 150 hours of interviews with singer Bono, guitarist The Edge, bassist Adam Clayton, drummer Larry Mullen Jr. and manager Paul McGuinness.
"We felt it was important to get the story on record, but that's not to say we're not going to go on a good many more years," he says. "This is the story thus far."
In this exclusive excerpt, the band has decamped to Berlin to record Achtung Baby. They arrive Oct. 3, 1990, the official day of Germany's reunification, but soon realize their vision and brotherhood is anything but unified.
Edge: We went to Berlin with a lot of ideas but most of them were very skeletal and undeveloped. They were directions and hints that we hoped would become fully-fledged songs when we kicked them around in rehearsal but unfortunately, since a lot of them started out from unusual origins, sometimes drum machines, sometimes just strange sounds, they didn't sound very good when the band tried to play them. There was an awkward phase where things weren't working out and there were two ways to analyze it. Adam and Larry were convinced the song ideas were crap and Bono and I thought the fault lay with the band.
Larry: I thought this might be the end. We had been through tough circumstances before and found our way out, but it was always outside influences that we were fighting against. For the first time ever it felt like the cracks were within. And that was a much more difficult situation to negotiate.
Bono: What we thought were just hairline cracks that could be easily fixed turned out to be more serious, the walls needed underpinning, we had to put down new foundations or the house would fall down. In fact it was falling down all around us. We were running up hotel bills and we had professional people, the U2 crew, staring at our averageness and scratching their heads and wondering if maybe they'd have been better off working for Bruce Springsteen. We came face to face with our limitations as a group on a lot of levels, playing and songwriting. When you're at sea the smartest thing to do is to find some dry land as quick as possible. So I think Larry and Adam were just anxious: "Stop messing around with all this electronica, let's get back to doing what we do. Because all this experimental stuff isn't working very well, is it? And, by the way, Clockwork Orange was (expletive)." There was a bit of that going on. "Did somebody say we were a rock band?" As you were walking down the corridor, you'd overhear that kind of remark.
Larry: In the past, when we were writing music, we would be in a room playing and the discussion was always along the lines of: "I don't like that particular part, try something else." There seemed to be consensus. We were starting on a blank page to a large degree, perhaps with just a guitar or melody or a riff or a vocal idea. So we started at the same place and ended at the same place. This time around, it wasn't a blank page. The parameters were already set, by drum machines, loops and synth pads. And it's kind of hard to embrace new rules when you don't understand them.
Adam: We weren't getting anywhere until One fell into our laps and suddenly we hit a groove.
Bono: Maybe "great" is what happens when "very good" gets tired. We kind of out-stared the average, it blinked first and One arrived.
Edge: I was trying to take one of our half finished ideas and give it some inspiration. I went off into another room and developed a couple of different chord progressions, neither of which actually worked where they were supposed to. (Producer) Danny Lanois said, "What happens if you play both of them, one into the next?" I was playing acoustic guitar and Bono got on the microphone and started improvising melodies and within a few minutes we had the bones of the song, melodically, structurally and even lyrically.
Bono: The words just fell out of the sky, a gift. We had a request from the Dalai Lama to participate in a festival called Oneness. I love and respect the Dalai Lama but there was something a little bit "let's hold hands" hippie to me about this particular event. I am in awe of the Tibetan position on non-violence but this event didn't strike a chord. I sent him back a note saying, "One — but not the same."
Edge: At the instant we were recording it, I got a very strong sense of its power. We were all playing together in the big recording room, a huge, eerie ballroom full of ghosts of the war, and everything fell into place. It was a reassuring moment, when everyone finally went, "Oh, great, this album has started." It's the reason you're in a band — when the spirit descends upon you and you create something truly affecting. One is an incredibly moving piece. It hits straight into the heart.
Larry: It was similar to the way we had recorded in the past. In some ways it was a sign that the blank page approach was still valid. Everything was not broken.

patic

23/09/2006, 10h54

Marybel

23/09/2006, 10h57

estou preocupada com isso tb:dúvida: agora encomendei a simples, mas se essa edição brasileira for traduzida eu vou querer comprar, queria saber mais detalhes antes de gastar dinheiro duas vezes com a mesma coisa :dúvida:
Sabe Patic, eu não me preocupo só com isso. Mesmo que saia uma edição brasileira, será que a qualidade de impressão e do papel será a mesma? Vou parecer a pessoa mais chata do mundo, mas eu me importo com esse tipo de coisa.

Agora é torcer pro pessoal da Agência EFE responder o e-mail. Já que em todos os portais onde saiu esta notícia eles são citados como a fonte, nada mais natural que eles tenham mais detalhes sobre esta data de 03/11.

patic

23/09/2006, 11h01

Sabe Patic, eu não me preocupo só com isso. Mesmo que saia uma edição brasileira, será que a qualidade de impressão e do papel será a mesma? Vou parecer a pessoa mais chata do mundo, mas eu me importo com esse tipo de coisa.

Agora é torcer pro pessoal da Agência EFE responder o e-mail. Já que em todos os portais onde saiu esta notícia eles são citados como a fonte, nada mais natural que eles tenham mais detalhes sobre esta data de 03/11.

concordo com vc, acho quase impossível que se acaso houver essa edição brasileira que ela terá a mesma qualidade da importada (capa dura, ótima qualidade nas fotos e no papel, etc), basta ver exemplos de outros livros que chegam no mercado nacional :reprvd:
eles fazem isso para baixar o preço e ficar acessível para um público maior, mas com certeza esse mais acessível sairá mais caro do que a versão importada com maior qualidade :reprvd:

Tetefani

23/09/2006, 18h19

Alguem viu isso?

http://www.livrariasaraiva.com.br/produto/produto.dll/detalhe?pro_id=936927&ID=C88D09097D60915152D391015&PAC_ID=19954

R$ 123,60:vaisef: :vaisef: :bravo: :bravo: :mau: :mau:
Previsão para chegar 29/10
:chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

Marybel

23/09/2006, 18h53

Louisevans

23/09/2006, 19h09

Se comprar pela Amazon.co.. fica no total (livro mais shipping) 36 dólares e uns quebradinhos.. faz a conta!!! Não dá 100 reais.. só vai valer a pena comprar a versão brasileira se tiver em português <_< (eu já encomendei a minha)

Bonolocks

23/09/2006, 20h07

Hoje foi o dia da Irlanda receber o U2 para uma sessão de autógrafos de sua biografia oficial U2 BY U2. A sessão ocorreu na Easons Bookstore em Dublin.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto34.jpg

Na terça-feira a banda estará autografando o livro em Nova York.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/u2.jpg
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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto17.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto16.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto6.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto8.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto11.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto9.jpg

Fonte: u2br

Tetefani

23/09/2006, 21h01

Quase o triplo do preço!
E pela versão americana!!!<_<

O pior é eu não posso importar:chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

Tetefani

23/09/2006, 21h12

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto28.jpg
Eu quero uma camisa igual a essa!:lol: :P
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto27.jpg
Será q o Bono ganhou?:P
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/pati1403/Bono/foto24.jpg
Como eu queria ser esse menino....Ha!Ha!:assobio: :lol: :P
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patic

24/09/2006, 09h41

postram no Pleba um link de vídeo do U2 em Dublin, tem entrevistas com Bono e Larry, é curtinho mas vale a pena :aprovado:

http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/2175881.smil

ps: abre com real player;)

Cacau

24/09/2006, 10h08

Vou trazer da lista UV uns comentários sobre o lançamento do livro no Brasil.;)

Pessoal,

Uma dica, eu entrei em contato com a distribuidora do livro e já encomendei
o meu. Deve chegar meados de outubro e o preço provavelmente será mais em
conta que nas lojas. Ela não pode me dizer ao certo qual será o preço por
causa da variação do dólar...mas sairá por volta de R$ 100,00..Livraria
Freebook (SP) freebook@freebook.com.br

Sim, o livro será VENDIDO no Brasil. Acabei de vir da Saraiva e eles vão
revender a versão importada. O preço é de R$ 126,00, se não me engano.

Acho que só mesmo quem não tem condições de importar vai se sujeitar a esses preços. Queria saber a explicação pra cobrar tão caro já que não há imposto pra importação de livros...

Quanto à uma versão em Português, eu espero que seja traduzida por alguém que pelo menos goste da banda...
Eu prefiro mesmo ler o original em inglês, mas pra quem tem dificuldades com a lingua, fico torcendo pra que surja uma versão com qualidade.

PS: Outro dia li uma critica na Veja, em que eles comentavam esse problema nas traduções, com tradutores que nem prestam atenção sobre o assunto que tão traduzindo...era um livro sobre cães labradores e as tradutoras traduziram "Lab Pups" (filhotes de labrador) como Filhotes de Laboratório !!! (AFF!!!)

Marybel

24/09/2006, 10h29

Cacau,
A alguns posts atrás (estou com preguiça de procurar, é verdade<_< ), alguém colou um trecho de uma notícia de um desses portais da Internet, inclusive com o link do site da Freebooks. E o preço da versão simples lá estava em R$ 146,00. Acho que todo mundo vai lembrar, eles falavam também que o preço da Deluxe seria em torno de R$ 400,00.

Acho que todo mundo sabe que eu sou a mais pessimista das pessoas. Ainda não acho que teremos a versão traduzida este ano. E sou muito grata a oportunidade de importar o livro e pagar menos de R$ 70,00 (com o frete e tudo!).:P

Violet U2

24/09/2006, 11h28

postram no Pleba um link de vídeo do U2 em Dublin, tem entrevistas com Bono e Larry, é curtinho mas vale a pena :aprovado:

http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/2175881.smil

ps: abre com real player;)
Consegui um link, pra ver tbm no real player, que salva no pc.
Então eu fiz o upload do video que eu tinha salvado no pc e estou colocando aqui pra vcs..
Enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/my08op

Louisevans

24/09/2006, 12h00

Grande Violet!!!!!! :beijo:

Nildo

24/09/2006, 14h54

Acho que só mesmo quem não tem condições de importar vai se sujeitar a esses preços. Queria saber a explicação pra cobrar tão caro já que não há imposto pra importação de livros...

Exato vou usar do mesmo argumento do dvd , e dizer para eles enfiarem esse preco ......

O livrop tah por 24 dolares ou at menos , e a galera quer cobrar mais q 100 , vao querer lucrar assim no inferno

Vertigoatomic

24/09/2006, 20h28

Marybel

24/09/2006, 20h33

VAI SAIR NO BRASIL EM NOVEMBROOOOOOOOO
SERÁ QUE É TRADUZIDO, DEVE SER NÉ?!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai meu bolso :chorando:

http://cifraclub.terra.com.br/noticias/jzsz-livro-sobre-escalada-do-u2-chega-ao-brasil-no-inicio-de-novembro.html

Então Fah, eu tô esperando uma pequena atenção do pessoal da Agência EFE (que foi a fonte desta notícia) sobre o livro. Infelizmente, eu acho que vai ser a versão americana mesmo!:(

Anitah BH

24/09/2006, 20h33

VAI SAIR NO BRASIL EM NOVEMBROOOOOOOOO
SERÁ QUE É TRADUZIDO, DEVE SER NÉ?!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai meu bolso :chorando:

http://cifraclub.terra.com.br/noticias/jzsz-livro-sobre-escalada-do-u2-chega-ao-brasil-no-inicio-de-novembro.html

ai jesuissssssssssssss, livro novo mais dvd novo...ai jesuisssssssss, preciso virar magnataaaaaaaaaaa:chorando:

Su Scout

24/09/2006, 20h47

Agora vou esperar um pouco também, pra ter certeza se será a versão em inglês mesmo, ou em português.:(

Renuska

24/09/2006, 22h16

Louisevans

24/09/2006, 22h20

Gente, tentei acompanhar tudo, mas me perdi totalmente.
AHH ahahhaa
peraí.
Então... a desluxe foi cancelada... blz.. mas quanto custava pela Amazon?
A simples dá menos de 100 pila né? (lá se vai a grana q eu ia usar pra comprar as camisas da Marilds, ohh bostica hahaha)
Pouuutz... não combram impostos por livros né?
Alguém sabe quanto tempo demora?
Minha mãe costuma comprar livros pela Amazon, e eles vem rapidíssimos e são entregues em casa... mas era pela dos Eua...
Vcs vão comprar pela dos Eua?
Ai eu sou a mais confusa, to desesperada aqui na frente do pc tentando entender HAHAH sorry gnt, mas obrigada desde já.

Calma, Rê!!! :lol: O livro pela Amazon.com está 23 dólares e uns trocadinhos.. com o frete até a minha casa (Minas Gerais) ficou em 36 dólares!! Dá pra comprar por lá tranquilamente.. acho que fica até mais barato que se comprar no Brasil (dizem que vai ser lançada dia 03/11, mas não se sabe se é inglês ou português) .. acho que demora um pouquinho pra chegar, mas com certeza é bem antes dessa data aí ;)

Beijos

Renuska

24/09/2006, 22h45

Calma, Rê!!! :lol: O livro pela Amazon.com está 23 dólares e uns trocadinhos.. com o frete até a minha casa (Minas Gerais) ficou em 36 dólares!! Dá pra comprar por lá tranquilamente.. acho que fica até mais barato que se comprar no Brasil (dizem que vai ser lançada dia 03/11, mas não se sabe se é inglês ou português) .. acho que demora um pouquinho pra chegar, mas com certeza é bem antes dessa data aí ;)

Beijos
aahhh mt obrigada, luise! eu tava tendo um treco aqui hahaha
poxa, tá barato, gente... nossa... eu quero HAHAH

Vamos ver, vou tentar comprar :aprovado:

Violet U2

25/09/2006, 01h26

Não é querendo assim puxar o tapete, mas eu não acredito que essa edição seja a traduzida.. Se for mesmo, ótimo para quem vai comprar ela :aprovado: e que não manja muito de inglês :)

prifrare

26/09/2006, 02h42

Vai sair uma versão portuguesa, vc vai poder comprar na Fnac.PT...já o Brasil, nem sinal até agora:reprvd:

Se vai sair uma versão portuguesa então está legal !!!
Se aqui no Brasil não sair mas lá em Portugal sim, é só importar o livro.
Eu já comprei em uma livraria portuguesa um livro de comunicação que só tinha uma versão portuguesa e não saiu caro.:aprovado::aprovado::aprovado:

Bonolocks

27/09/2006, 07h28

Fotos do dia de autógrafos de ontem em NY.

http://www.u2br.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=513&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Su Scout

27/09/2006, 10h22

Uma amostra do quanto vamos rir com esse livro.:lol:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i202/Suscout/u2girls.jpg

elciojg

27/09/2006, 10h23

é...já foi dito isso...mas eu vou me juntar ao coro...

BYE BYE DÉCIMO-TERCEIRO!

Vertigoatomic

27/09/2006, 13h24

Eu to no maior desespero... quero comprar o livro, mas quero esperar novembro pra ver como será esta edição nacional... quero comprar o DVD da Zoo e o livro U2 show tb ahhhhhhhhhhhhh dilemaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

Promenade

27/09/2006, 13h27

foi mal a desinformação pessoal, mais não tem uma versão deluxe do livro mais??? :chorando:

Louisevans

27/09/2006, 13h31

Não !! Ela foi cancelada!!! :(

Cristina Cruz

27/09/2006, 15h59

o Meu livro chegou hoje.. estou aqui a folhear e estou absolutamente doidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

Voces nâo têm nem ideia do que é o livro. Muito melhor do que eu esperava. Há muitas fotos conhecidas, mas muitas, muitas outras desconhecidas. É uma pessoa não querer para de ver e ver e e ver.
O Edge deu muitas fotos de quando era pequeno, há uam linda dele com a irmã. Há dele com a familia no dia em que casou com a Aishlin. Sei lá.. há foto do casamento dos país do Bono, uma do Bono, Bob e Eli...

Nem sei o que dizer mais. O livro é mais largo do que eu esperava (é de largura idêntico ao do Anton) e tem muito mais texto do Neil do que eu tb estava à espera.

Cristina Cruz

27/09/2006, 16h02

Só mais uma informação. Hoje perguntei pessoalmente na FNAC pela versão portuguesa do livro e NADA!! Não sabem de nada.

Mas nos écrans gigantes estava a passar o DVD Zoo!! Fiquei ali sentada no sofá a ver. Lindoooooooooooooooooooo!!

Bonolocks

27/09/2006, 16h20

Voces nâo têm nem ideia do que é o livro. Muito melhor do que eu esperava. Há muitas fotos conhecidas, mas muitas, muitas outras desconhecidas. É uma pessoa não querer para de ver e ver e e ver.
O Edge deu muitas fotos de quando era pequeno, há uam linda dele com a irmã. Há dele com a familia no dia em que casou com a Aishlin. Sei lá.. há foto do casamento dos país do Bono, uma do Bono, Bob e Eli...

Nem sei o que dizer mais. O livro é mais largo do que eu esperava (é de largura idêntico ao do Anton) e tem muito mais texto do Neil do que eu tb estava à espera.

Eu queeeeeeeeeroooooooooooooooooo!!!:chorando: :chorando: :chorando: :chorando: :chorando:

Vertigoatomic

27/09/2006, 16h54

Cristina Cruz

27/09/2006, 17h02

Hoje ainda estou em estado de choque com o livro, mas amanhã vou tirar fotos e postar aqui. Assim vocês têm uma ideia melhor dele.

valeu cada euro que eu paguei por ele. Vai directo para o meu top de coisas dos u2 .. e olha que eu tenho muitas, muitas.

Marybel

27/09/2006, 17h03

Cristina eu morro se nao comprar esse livrooooooooo :chorando: ... eu ja sonhei com eleeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
Sonhei que tinha comprado ele, o U2 Show, o DVD da zooooooooooo :chorando:
Fafah em seu momento "consumista descontrol"!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Cristina Cruz

27/09/2006, 17h40

Vertigoatomic .. se vc sonhou vc vai ter em breve. :aprovado: :aprovado:

Su Scout

27/09/2006, 18h11

AAAAHHH Não vou aguüentar e farei o pedido na Amazon, não vou esperar pra ver se sairá uma edição em português.:bravo:

Cristina Cruz

27/09/2006, 18h27

eu tb não aguentei...

Nildo

27/09/2006, 18h34

Diz q tem muita conversa sobre guitarra criz ..............

Diz diz diz

:D

Su Scout

28/09/2006, 08h25

Esse site fala de uma versão portuguesa do livro http://www.fabricadeconteudos.com/?lop=artigo&op=6512bd43d9caa6e02c990b0a82652dca&id=b5ad8c2f22048e59aea3cc4a0bdbc2bf

Bonolocks

28/09/2006, 08h36

Esse site fala de uma versão portuguesa do livro http://www.fabricadeconteudos.com/?l...a3cc4a0bdbc2bf (http://www.fabricadeconteudos.com/?lop=artigo&op=6512bd43d9caa6e02c990b0a82652dca&id=b5ad8c2f22048e59aea3cc4a0bdbc2bf)

Versão em portuguêêêêêês!!! :lol: :aprovado: :maluco: :pulando:

Vertigoatomic

28/09/2006, 08h43

Esse site fala de uma versão portuguesa do livro http://www.fabricadeconteudos.com/?lop=artigo&op=6512bd43d9caa6e02c990b0a82652dca&id=b5ad8c2f22048e59aea3cc4a0bdbc2bf

No portugues de portugal né pipooou!!! Socorrooooooooo eu ja comprei o importadoooooooooooooo...

Nao aguentei comprei o livro e o dvd da zoo!!!!!!!!!

Ah jisus isso é uma doençaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Su Scout

28/09/2006, 08h46

É de Portugal sim, mas quebra o galho de muita gente:P
Já estou em crise de ansiedade:chorando:

Bonolocks

28/09/2006, 08h54

É de Portugal sim, mas quebra o galho de muita gente:P
Já estou em crise de ansiedade:chorando:

O meu galho já vai quebrar! E o meu bolso tb! Hehe!:lol:

Já começo a ficar ansioso!:( :oh:

Cristina Cruz

28/09/2006, 12h10

capa e 1as 5 páginas. Da capa tirei com o zoo por cima para voces poderem ter uma noção do tamanho.
Nildo, o livro tem 350 páginas e eu ainda só vou na 20 por isso ainda não sei bem se tem muito sobre guitarras.

Se voces acharem que é útil eu vou postando mais fotos do livro.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2byu2001.jpg

Cristina Cruz

28/09/2006, 12h25

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2byu2002.jpg

Cristina Cruz

28/09/2006, 12h47

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2001.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2003.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2004.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2005.jpg

Cristina Cruz

28/09/2006, 12h51

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2006.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2007.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2008.jpg

Cristina Cruz

28/09/2006, 12h55

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2009.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2010.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/criscruz/u2%20by%20u2/u2poru2011.jpg